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Rudy Tinoco

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I purchased “Reshuffled” by Pedro Morillo. I’m no stranger to faro shuffles, but I’m having a difficult time doing them with the deck that they provided. During the performance that Pedro is doing for Dani DaOrtiz, it looks like he’s struggling as well. It’s actualy kind of brutal to watch him.

Is there a way to make this deck faro better?

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Is the deck gaffed? Could you duplicate it on a normal deck?
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Steven Youell has a video on youtube "Buffing the Deck" where he teaches you to prepare a deck so you can handle it and faro it better. I don't own Reshuffled so I don't know how gaffed it is so I wouldn't know if you can buff it as Steven shows you on the video. Have a look and see if you can do something with it. 


 


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Steven Youell has a video on youtube "Buffing the Deck" where he teaches you to prepare a deck so you can handle it and faro it better. I don't own Reshuffled so I don't know how gaffed it is so I wouldn't know if you can buff it as Steven shows you on the video. Have a look and see if you can do something with it. 


 



Thanks Steven and Luis! There is nothing about the deck that affects the edges. It should be able to faro fine if it was cut well.

I’ll try Steven’s method of buffing it and report back to you.

Thanks again!

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Here's a tip I got from the late Tony Kardyro: get a bar of really cheap soap, like Cascade, and run it around the edges of each card. Then thoroughly riffle shuffle the deck several times to shake off the excess soap. After working the deck in, it will Faro practically by itself.
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Gary Ouellet had a related tip for improving the general handling quality of cards: use a bar of soap to draw an "X" on the back of each card, then shuffle thoroughly to even it all out.

If I remember correctly he recommended "Irish Spring" - but I don't know if that was the result of rigourous testing or whether he just liked the smell of that brand 😉

Whatever the reason, I've found that it is quite effective.



Edit:  My always-foggy memory has momentarily cleared - the soap he recommended was "Cashmere Bouquet", not "Irish Spring" ... just in case anyone wants to follow the suggestion to the letter.
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Of course, the other advantage to the methods suggested by Bob and Robin, is that you can now do card tricks in the shower!
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Of course, the other advantage to the methods suggested by Bob and Robin, is that you can now do card tricks in the shower!


Yeah, and you'll never have to worry about ending dirty!

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Okay, Wayne, we posted simultaneously, but obviously thinking in the same circles! 
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Wonderful suggestions! Soap? Never heard of that. Wonders never cease!

Just curious, why would soap have that helpful effect on the cards?

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Wonderful suggestions! Soap? Never heard of that. Wonders never cease!

Just curious, why would soap have that helpful effect on the cards?


I can't imagine why it would. When specific name brands are mentioned as being superior I grow more suspicious that we're dealing with urban legends. After all, with the exception of fragrance, most soap bars are manufactured from similar ingredients. 

Similar to Steven's buffing suggestion, I simply rub all four edges of a new deck on my jeans a few times to remove rough edges and such. Usually works fine for me.

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Here's a tip I got from the late Tony Kardyro: get a bar of really cheap soap, like Cascade, and run it around the edges of each card. Then thoroughly riffle shuffle the deck several times to shake off the excess soap. After working the deck in, it will Faro practically by itself.


So that's why so many of my vintage decks smell like my grandma...
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Low hanging fruit never lasts long around here, for sure.  [biggrin]
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Geno Munari said that in Baccarat they used tailors soap to make the bills slippery. It's probably worth a try on card edges for the Faro Shuffle.
 
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I miss the old times where every bicycle deck you bought would faro perfectly out of the box.
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I've noticed some new decks far better face up rather than face down.  This seems to be from slightly different cut edges.  I do also wish they would all be good faro'ing.
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I don't think Gary Ouelette used the soap for Faros. He used it for fanning, I believe.
Someone who has a copy of "Close-Up Illusions" can check this for accuracy.

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I've noticed some new decks far better face up rather than face down.  This seems to be from slightly different cut edges.  I do also wish they would all be good faro'ing.

This depends on whether the cards are cut while face up or face down. Richard Turner sells "Traditional Cut Cards" and they faro better-- particularly table faros.

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Steven is right, Gary Ouellet refers to a hint from Walter Cummings using some kind of soap to smoothening (?) the cards for stage manipulation.

Some pages later he gives a hint for preparing the edges of a new deck via special sandpaper.

All the best,

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To find out which way a deck faro’s best, (bottom to top or top to bottom in a face down deck) hold the deck in your right hand and bevel the deck as in the first photo. One of the long edge bevels will feel decidedly smoother than the other. If it is the upper facing bevel, the deck faros better from top to bottom. If the down facing bevel feels smoother they are tradionally cut and should faro better bottom to top.

That is not to say it isn’t possible to faro a pack both ways but you might want to buff the rough feeling bevel with buffing stick or your jeans until it feels as smooth as the other side.

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If you want to soap the edges, one brand frequently recommended was Cashmere Bouquet.  Don't know if you can still get it or not.  (Just looked and it is not made anymore but ebay has folks getting a fortune for it, collectors I guess...who knew) Hotel soaps from cheap brands like Motel 6 are likely similar.  The key is apparently that the bars are hard.
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