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Michaelblue

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I recently bought a dvd of an at the table lecture by John Guastaferro and while some of the magic was good, i was really put off by the format. In addition to Mr. Guastaferro, another man stood there the whole time and talked and talked and made funny faces at the camera and it was so distracting and annoying that it was difficult to follow the instructions given for the routines. I hope they are not all like that.

As for the magic, there's a good sandwich/transposition involving jokers and a selected card. He teaches his ballet cut, which is kind of fun. There's a gambling routine with a blackjack theme that was confusing to learn, in fact i have yet to even bother with it. He does a good Ring on straw, which is pretty much Dai Vernon's ring on wand, and i guess this is updated.

Best of all is a packet trick called Little White Lies. Starts out like B'Wave and then everything vanishes, including a prediction made on a business card.

Overall a good deal for ten dollars. I hope the host, or whoever he is, stays out of others in the series


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I don't have a lot of the online lectures, but a bad host can really ruin a lecture.
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Yes, truly. I as tired after watching it, because it's just so busy, the guy talking and Guastaferro trying to lecture. 
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I bought the first one with Michael Ammar. Josh Jay was the host and he was really helpful and helped Michael shine. The star was Michael, not Josh.

I've seen some clips of other lectures and there have been several different hosts. I think that makes it a little more difficult to focus on the magic if the host is doing something else. From what you describe, it sounds as if the host is trying to be funny (to his friends in the studio?) but he is distracting the people watching on the screen.

The Live lectures from Penguin Magic have had Dan Harlan as the host for most of them and I think that has brought some "uniformity" to their lectures. Dan is sometimes funny but I don't think he does it to the point of being annoying.

Two different approaches to doing the same thing. I hope they notice this and change it so At the Table is not distracting people any more.

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I can see Joshua Jay being very respectful, same with Dan Harlan. Thanks for the info.
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      Just curious - why does a lecturer need a host?
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Good question. I would have someone introduce the lecturer and let it go at that. 
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      Of course. I don't need anyone sitting with me taking any attention away from me (that's me - egotistical b**s**rd!). Aside from that, and more important - it'd probably louse up my timing.
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      Of course. I don't need anyone sitting with me taking any attention away from me (that's me - egotistical b**s**rd!). Aside from that, and more important - it'd probably louse up my timing.


Haha!! As you say, "modesty is a drag". [smile]

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I prefer Penguin Live's format to At The Table. With Penguin, Dan Harlan sits off to the side and only interjects when he sees an opportunity to add something worthwhile, or if he sees a good question coming in on Twitter that could just as easily been asked by someone in the live audience. He doesn't interfere or interrupt the flow. After the formal lecture material is completed, the performer sits with Dan for ~20 min interview/discussion, which is also good. I will say that both Penguin Live and At The Table have introduced me to many performers that I had not previously known.
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That sounds more reasonable, yes. And more respectful of the lecturer
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   I've had to agree with a lot here.  I watched the ATT lecture  with Greg Wilson, and the host of that one rubbed me the wrong way.  He interrupted Greg quite a bit, and for no apparent reason.  The Penquin lectures I've seen have been much better.  Even when Dan Harlan doesn't host, the one who fills in usually comes on, introduces the magician in one sentence, and then he goes away for awhile.  The only time you hear from him is when the lecturer wants to know about questions, and then again at the end for a Q&A.  Much better in my opinion.
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How's the magic on the Greg Wilson one? He's usually good for some coin stuff
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Michaelblue, I looked at the preview for the John G lecture you had mentioned to see who the host was.  I had purchased a different ATT lecture with the same host and found the same thing, very hard to watch. 
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I'll just get the others with Dan Harlan or Joshua Jay as host, then. I hate to keep putting the guy down, I'm sure he's a nice person, just a terrible host.
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How's the magic on the Greg Wilson one? He's usually good for some coin stuff


Honestly, there's a lot of repetition between that and the one he did for Penguin.  He actually got alot more in the Penguin lecture, because they don't always adhere to a basic two hour limit.  It's good stuff, though, and I do use a variation of one of his card effects.  For my money, though, I just stick with Penguin.  Better hosts, and alot more magic for the money.  I've only ever got downloads from them, so that's all I know about.
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For the record, Greg Wilson hosts most of these now, and I think they set up this format to be more of a session than a lecture. I've bought a couple of these and they have all provided some value. I personally enjoyed Francis Menotti's lecture the most. It has the same host that's being discussed, but he was distracting in this lecture. Also, Peter Turner's was full of great stuff as well (if you're into that sort of thing). If I get the time, I might break down the half dozen of these lectures I've bought. 
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I like Francis Menotti's Pieces of Nothing routine. I may get his lecture next, even though it's hosted by the annoying guy. 
If you watch the Guastaferro lecture you can see he is visibly shaken near the end, when he's trying to discuss his multiple card selection.
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How were the Jeff McBride ones?  I'm thinking about picking them up.
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Have not not seen any of those
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