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Harry mentioned - as an alternative to his ACR - "The Braue Secret Reversal." Where might be I learn that move?

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    I must have described/taught it in just about every one of my books, Ken.  Fred (Braue) was a coast-to-coast friend - and we often discussed two of his ideas which were also favorites of mine - The Braue Secret Reversal and The Braue Secret Add-On - which I've also described/taught in just about every one of my books. Certainly in all the more recent ones.
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Hmm... It's in Card College Volume 2. Be sure to pay attention to the directions; it's a simple sleight, but one that's easy to do incorrectly and thereby give away.
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Harry, we posted simultaneously. I knew it was taught in several of your books, but wasn't able to quickly suss out exactly where. Card College was easier to access, so that's the source I used.

You know, a great project for some future magical web designer would be to create an online searchable reference wiki for your material. There's so much - Thank you for that! - that it's not always easy to know where to look!!!

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    Even difficult for me!!    Oh, and I've also described/taught in a number of my books what I call the RTP - Reverse To Position. It's my way of using the Braue Secret Reversal to secretly reverse the vital card to a required position from top of deck. I know that I also teach it in my upcoming JAW DROPPERS TWO. At least I think so - it's all starting to blend!!
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Thanks Harry and Anthony!

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Following up on this, I believe Dennis Behr has already done what you mention, Anthony. I went to Dennis Behr's "Conjuring Archive" here: http://archive.denisbehr.de/

Then I did a search for "Braue Reversal" and got this resulting page: http://archive.denisbehr.de/show.php?search=Braue+Reversal. Now THIS is the cool part. You can "Search Within These Entries" once you've got all the results for "Braue Reversal." I wanted to find the one taught by Harry, so I put in "Lorayne," and it narrowed the results to only include references to the move to these places:

Personal Secrets
Deck-Sterity
Quantum Leaps
Best of Friends
Best of Friends, Vol II
Card Shark

I hope that helps some folks! 

However - the results show that these are "variations" of the move. So I'm curious, Harry - how do you actually use this move to end (as an alternate to your standard) the ACR? The original seems to put the top card reversed into the middle of the deck. The Lorayne "variations" seem to be either "reversed cards end up below a cover card," or "renamed "RTP" - Reverse To Position."

Since the original way is to palm it off and have the spec spread the deck to show the card was never there. In this alternate method, do you have the spec spread the deck to find the ambitious card "hiding" in the middle of the deck face-down, or something similar?

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Cool - Thanks, Ken!
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My pleasure!
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Originally Posted by KenTheriot
Following up on this, I believe Dennis Behr has already done what you mention, Anthony. I went to Dennis Behr's "Conjuring Archive" here: http://archive.denisbehr.de/

Then I did a search for "Braue Reversal" and got this resulting page: http://archive.denisbehr.de/show.php?search=Braue+Reversal. Now THIS is the cool part. You can "Search Within These Entries" once you've got all the results for "Braue Reversal." I wanted to find the one taught by Harry, so I put in "Lorayne," and it narrowed the results to only include references to the move to these places:

Personal Secrets
Deck-Sterity
Quantum Leaps
Best of Friends
Best of Friends, Vol II
Card Shark

I hope that helps some folks! 

However - the results show that these are "variations" of the move. So I'm curious, Harry - how do you actually use this move to end (as an alternate to your standard) the ACR? The original seems to put the top card reversed into the middle of the deck. The Lorayne "variations" seem to be either "reversed cards end up below a cover card," or "renamed "RTP" - Reverse To Position."

Since the original way is to palm it off and have the spec spread the deck to show the card was never there. In this alternate method, do you have the spec spread the deck to find the ambitious card "hiding" in the middle of the deck face-down, or something similar?

Thanks!

Ken


Good info!

Although unless I'm very mistaken (very possible!) the move doesn't involve any palming...maybe I'm getting my names mixed up, where did you locate the write up of the 'original'?

P.S. the move is also taught in CUCM unless I'm much mistaken.
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      I'm confused - nothing new, I usually START confused. I never wrote/published a book titled Card Shark. I also teach the Braue Secret Reversal in just about every one of my books after Best of Friends 2. And, I never use ANY sort of reversal in my Amb. Cd. Routine. That just wouldn't/doesn't fit. (I most often end by showing that every card looks like the amb. card [via Hindu Shuffle] and then say that it was never in the deck at all and produce it from a pocket.) And, if you want a terrific (in my biased opinion) secret reversal check out my Universal Reversal - which I've also taught in quite a few of my books.
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      I'm confused - nothing new, I usually START confused. I never wrote/published a book titled Card Shark. I also teach the Braue Secret Reversal in just about every one of my books after Best of Friends 2. And, I never use ANY sort of reversal in my Amb. Cd. Routine. That just wouldn't/doesn't fit. (I most often end by showing that every card looks like the amb. card [via Hindu Shuffle] and then say that it was never in the deck at all and produce it from a pocket.) And, if you want a terrific (in my biased opinion) secret reversal check out my Universal Reversal - which I've also taught in quite a few of my books.


Seconded on the Universal Reversal!  Although I am much more of a fan of the National Reversal.  I know in your write up (at least the 'only my apocalypse' one) you put it as the second best, but I like it a lot more.

Ken, you might find both to be useful!
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The Braue Reverse is not really a sleight. In the same way that the Double Undercut is not a sleight. Both are open procedures during which something sneaky occurs.

As noted descriptions are all over the shop, including The Royal Road To Card Magic. In a chapter devoted to "Reverses" it comes with the elegant title, the "Fourth Method". Page 191.

I vaguely recollect the move being called "The Brave Reversal" in the first edition of Jerry Mentzer’s "Counts Cuts Moves And Subtlety". Either that or in one of his "Card Cavalcade" series of books. Possibly both. Typing error, one hopes.

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Here's a short video tutorial on the Braue Reversal.

The password is marlo7d



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Harry,

I was only using the note you gave me when I mentioned I had a hard time with the palming off at the end of your ACR. You said to me:

"Ken: The palming of the card at the end of my Ambitious Card Routine is NOT essential. Sure, it's a good ending, but there are (always are) other ways to end. For example - do Braue Secret Reversal or my Universal Reversal to secretly reverse the card.

Or - shuffle it to 7th from top and go into my Out Of My Control - or lap it instead of palming it (if you're seated at a table - double turnover; table the assumed vital card and as you lean forward to do so easy enough to lap deck's top card.)

One of the endings I myself use or used to use fairly often - and unless you've read the things I'm going to mention in my books you won't know what I'm talking about, but - I do my Angle Spread and then into my Moving Pencil. I've "dropped some jaws" with that ending. Really; I could write a pamphlet on different and easy-to-do endings for an ACR."


So I'm just trying to put in an alternate ending to your ACR in a way you suggested above.

Ken

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   Gotcha' Ken. Went out of my mind that I'd mentioned my Universal Reversal - and so long as it is only for the ending - that's okay. Re-reading my post above - sure, any one of those suggested endings is fine.
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Good info! Although unless I'm very mistaken (very possible!) the move doesn't involve any palming...maybe I'm getting my names mixed up, where did you locate the write up of the 'original'? P.S. the move is also taught in CUCM unless I'm much mistaken.


I was referring to Harry's ACR.
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Here's a short video tutorial on the Braue Reversal.

The password is marlo7d



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Thanks Mike! I LOVE your setup there with the 3 camera views. Do you mind sharing what kind of cameras you are using for this?

Cheers!

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     I most often use the Braue Secret Reversal to reverse a card or cards to CENTER deck. What wasn't mentioned in the tutorial is --- flip that second half face up and replace to under the right-hand half instead of flipping it to top - and it's done. Just wanted to mention this for completion's sake.
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Harry - I just went through and learned Universal Reversal from Trend Setters. Nice move. So my question is - for ACR, how is a reversal used at the end as an alternate to the palming/pocketing thing? Once the ambitious card is reversed in the center of the deck, do you just ribbon spread the deck and show that the card has turned itself around or something?
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Good point Harry. The move is often used to reverse at center. I should amend the video down the way.

I'm using two Canon Vixia HF R72s and a Canon Vixia HF G30. The R72s are cheap at around $400 if memory serves. I think I paid around $1200 for the G30. It may be cheaper now.

The Roland switcher can take four inputs. So I can use a computer for PowerPoint or add a fourth camera.

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BTW Johnny New York pointed out some software that allows for a multicam Skype or Hangouts session. It's now a monthly fee deal. But it's not too expensive and works really well. You can use up to four and maybe more web cams.

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Good point Harry. The move is often used to reverse at center. I should amend the video down the way.

I'm using two Canon Vixia HF R72s and a Canon Vixia HF G30. The R72s are cheap at around $400 if memory serves. I think I paid around $1200 for the G30. It may be cheaper now.

The Roland switcher can take four inputs. So I can use a computer for PowerPoint or add a fourth camera.

Mike


Thanks Mike!
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Universal Reversal has some wonderful applications in JawDroppers.
The Braue Reversal is a great maneuver for the arsenal.
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     Ken: Patter covers all.  If I wanted to secretly reverse the ambitious card to center deck for the ending I'd simply say something like - "Obviously that six of clubs is a magic card - whenever it wants to it can do a somersault right here in the middle of the deck!" - as you table ribbon spread to show it face up at center of the facedown deck. Just one idea off the top of my grey/balding head.
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Got it. Thanks so much, Harry!

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Nice lesson from Mike on the Braue Reversal.  Much appreciated. And that is a great tip on how not to flash to spectators on your left, for whom you have a vulnerable angle.  

There are times when I want the card(s) reversed not on bottom, but in the middle of the deck.  Simple solution: When the time comes to flip the bottom half of the deck face up and where you would normally drop that half on top of the deck completing the move - instead, place that half of the deck face up underneath all the cards being held by the right hand.  The card(s) is now conveniently reversed in the middle.

Of course, alternatively, to place the reversed card in the middle of the deck, you can just do everything exactly as shown by Mike, and then just give the cards one straight cut, being careful, of course, not to flash the bottom (reversed) card.
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