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"Mr. Magician, what do you mean when you say that you removed 2 of the Queens?  Where are they now? Are the ones you removed in that little packet of cards you just put on the table? I'm thinking of a black queen and a red queen—do you know which ones? You told me to think of Queens. Do you know which Queens I'm thinking of? You don't? Well then, you are not much of a magician, I don't think that you can read my mind, and I doubt that you have any psychic abilities, either. Do you know any 4- Ace tricks?
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I've performed this for years. Never had an issue. I have a two hour walk around gig tomorrow and plan to on performing it and don't anticipate any problems.

I always hear people say mentalism is easy. Apparently not.
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Great effect!  I did the Jumbo version very successfully for several years and, like Evil Dan, never had any problems.
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1.5 hours till I perform. I'll keep track of how many times I perform B"Wave today and if I get questioned on it.
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A nice followup for a repeat audience is, "Alice's Revenge:"



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I have to wonder if Reno posted this as a joke?  I've never experienced, seen, or even heard of anyone getting this response to B'Wave.  The (hypothetical?) volunteer seems to have been given very poor instructions by Mr. Magician.
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7 times in 2 hours.
No responses like the OP noted.
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Been performing B'Wave for years and the only issues I've experienced involved being accused of witchcraft.

I agree with Bob, Alice's Revenge is indeed a great follow-up. in fact, when in a position to do so, which isn't often enough, I perform John Bannon's Discrepancy City Prediction, followed by B'Wave, and finishing with Alice's Revenge.

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A nice followup for a repeat audience is, "Alice's Revenge:"





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I've performed this for years. Never had an issue. I have a two hour walk around gig tomorrow and plan to on performing it and don't anticipate any problems.

I always hear people say mentalism is easy. Apparently not.


Evil One, if you don't mind, do you do the spectator table thing on your walk around or have you managed to work strictly "in the hands"?

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Steve, everything is in the hands.
Some key points...
1. I place the cards into my left hand so that the long edges face me and the spectator. This way there is no need for a turn around to correctly orientate the cards. You just move the appropriate narrow edge to the front and proceed.
2. I spread the top card over, then the bottom card, remarking that I know where the reversed card is and that this helps build suspense and then show the card for reveal #1.
3. I say that of course you might think I'm a magician and that I could have made any of the Kings turn face up but look at this. At this point the cards are spread in a four card fan, second card from bottom reversed. I pull out the reversed card, turn it over and place it face down on top, in the middle of the other three cards, injogged a lot in the left hand and clamp down on the cards with my left thumb. Odd backed card is the second reveal.
4. Final reveal. I remark how all of this was in our imagination and I never really pulled out cards or flipped one face up and likewise the other three kinds never really existed. Now I slowly take the face down cards and one at a time slowly turn them face up, on top and out-jogged on the face down odd-backed card.
5. At this point it appears that I showed the front and back of each card. No one ever asks to see the cards. I say there was only one way this could have ended, thank them for sharing their psychic skills and move on.
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Along with Mike Power's Diminishing Returns trick, B'Wave was just one of those effects that was such a stunner no one ever asked to see the cards. I used to demo these two tricks all the time and no one ever wanted to see the cards.
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... thank them for sharing their psychic skills and move on.


Excellent presentation, ED ... and there's the key point that derails the (imaginary?) reaction in the post that started this thread : present B'Wave as a demonstration of the volunteer's psychic ability, not the magician's.
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Now this seems like real magic. Name any ace: it will turn face-up. No crazy, tortuous, magician's equivoque—" I had a dream last night about you and the 4 aces, and you threw 2 of them into the air, and . . .—or nonsensical patter.






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Out of curiosity, which of Paul's books is this in? I've got a few but don't recall it.
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First, this is a magic trick, where you can make anything happen; in this case any one of the four aces turn face up. B'Wave is mind reading. You're having the spectator tell you which one of four cards is face up. Different premise. Different presentation.

Second, I don't get Paul's trick!! You say you have four aces. You show four cards. You tell the person to name any Ace. The four cards are spread, that ace is now face up. So far so good.

But then you take the three face down cards and show four face up blanks. Huh?

Where and why does the extra blank card appear?

What am I missing??
4-1=3
This trick is 4-1=5

I know Paul is on this board. Please explain. It's the one piece that's holding me back from even looking for this trick.
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Reno... If you don't like the script change it. For me, the choices the spectator makes is a small journey. It's not laborious or non-sensical.
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I remember when B'wave first came out and we were selling it in the shop, We were always out.  I've never had that reaction.  Of all the magicians I've known that perform the effect, I'm sure they have not had this problem.  

I can count the number of packet tricks on one hand that I know pro's use on a regular basis,  B'wave is right up there. Reno if this happened to you then you may want to re think the way you are performing the effect.   

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Reno, you trolling? B'Wave is a specific trick created by Max Maven in the 1970s, and released to the magic fraternity in the 1980s. It hinges on an equivoque. So what? Handled correctly, and Max was clear about the handling when he released the effect, the effect kills. If you don't like the trick, or if you are uncomfortable with equivoque, that's cool. Don't perform the trick, or any tricks using the rhetorical hook. No biggie. Some of us love the trick and will continue to perform it. Again, no biggie. Bob Farmer's trick, Alice's Revenge, may be more to your liking. Did you check out the vid? No equivoque, free choice, works every time. Give it a shot!

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First, this is a magic trick, where you can make anything happen; in this case any one of the four aces turn face up. B'Wave is mind reading. You're having the spectator tell you which one of four cards is face up. Different premise. Different presentation.

Second, I don't get Paul's trick!! You say you have four aces. You show four cards. You tell the person to name any Ace. The four cards are spread, that ace is now face up. So far so good.

But then you take the three face down cards and show four face up blanks. Huh?

Where and why does the extra blank card appear?

What am I missing??
4-1=3
This trick is 4-1=5

I know Paul is on this board. Please explain. It's the one piece that's holding me back from even looking for this trick.


Here is what I always find interesting.  I really enjoyed Paul's take and presentation.  Did not even think about it making sense.   not only did the thought up card appear reversed and with a different back.  It was the only ace in the pack!   I thought it wonderful.  

Then I read the above by Evil Dan and I couldn't agree more.  When you pull it apart it makes no sense.  So I went back and watched it again.  Sure enough it did not make  lot of sense.  But I still really enjoyed it. 

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