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So when I walk up to the first group of people I say " Hi, my name is Logan, and I am sort of the hired gun here tonight..can I ask you, Do you believe in ESP ? Great! Would you like to see something ?

That's my intro. There are no tables at the event...

I do,

Sign Language ~
Stigmata~
Peek Wallet~
P K Touches~
Koran Newspaper Prediction~
Reflect A Thought~
Luna~
Crazy Mans Handcuffs/I have a mental effect for this~
DD/ Business Card Business/John Riggs~
Bent On Strange / Cassidy~
ID~
Chronologue/Cassidy/I made my own~
Sum Total/I use just a pocket notebook~
Cardology/Larry Becker's card effect~

What do you think? Do you like the way I approach a group of people ? If you have any questions..please feel free to ask.

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Your intro to me: Hi, my name is Logan, and I am sort of the hired gun here tonight..can I ask you, Do you believe in ESP ? Great! Would you like to see something ?

My response: Yeah, I'd like to see you get me another drink faster than me having to wait in that line. Since you're psychic, you already know what I'm drinking. But bring me back the wrong drink and not only will I not tip you, I'll complain to management.

Why? Hired gun tells me nothing. If you said I'm the hired gun here tonight to provide some psychic entertainment during the cocktail hour. Tell me, do you believe in ESP? - That explains you and why you're here, sets expectations as to what is about to happen, and still leaves them a little room to bail out in case they don't want to see anything.

As far as the stuff you do. I need more info. That's a big laundry list of stuff. Do you do everything on that list for everyone? Do you show them the list and let them pick something they'd like to see? Do you just perform what feels right for you at the time?

Peek Wallet is a prop. It's not a routine. So that makes it hard to judge your set list. Some of the other routines...are they pretty much performed like what you see on YouTube or do you have an amazing routine that you've developed with it. Again hard to judge.
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I am with the Evil One. Your opening, as described, is pretty weak. It does little or nothing to elicit interest in you or your act. You need to script an opening that creates curiosity and interest. Example: Back in his comedy club days Max Maven's opening line was "Boo." Simply "Boo." And it worked. It addressed his style, attire, and attitude. It made the audience want to know more. How do you achieve that?

What if I told you, "No, I do not believe in ESP." How would you proceed from there? Engage me in an argument of some sort by assuming you could change my mind? And asking, "Would you like to see something?" is tantamount to eliciting potential rejection. Instead why not show them something on the spot. Something quick and arousing?

Maybe we can help you come up with something stronger; something that works best for you. But as the Evil One wrote, we would need more information. Can you describe your style? Your manner? How do you dress? Do you present yourself as a "serious" mentalist or do you inject humor and take a more lighthearted approach? Is your goal to entertain or to baffle or both? What do you want your audeinces to remember about you?

As to set list, again the Evil One nails it. Which tricks do you use and how do you decide what to use for specific groups?

One other thing. In these times, regardless of your personal opinions, I would not recommend using terms like "hired gun."

Hope none of this is too heavy-handed, but you did ask. And if you really want help I imagine there are those on this forum who can provide it. Providing you are willing to listen...
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I'll have to agree with Dan and Anthony, the "opening" line needs work.  You want them to be interested in you and also what you propose to show them.  As for the list, not all that familiar with mentalism and could tell you, but that is a big list.
If you perform that complete list it might be too much for people with a mild interest in what you do.  Better to just do a few and move on, but you don't really say what performance venue it is.  If it's a formal show that's another story.
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I was expecting actual footage of you performing. Even the best opening lines can look great on paper. It's the individual delivering those lines that makes it "work" as an opener.

One thing that I've learned to do when I'm hired to do walk around is to include with my introduction the name of the person(s) who have hired me to be at the event. This creates a connection between me...the perfect stranger walking around with a deck of card in his hands and someone who they may actually know and respect within the context of the group.
Creating this situation allows for the guests to be more willing to politely watch an effect...and hopefully be impressed enough so that a second performance later in the evening will be a welcomed treat.

I remember attending a magic club meeting the night after David Blaine's first television special in the late 1990"s. It was an all out hate session ranging from his clothing to choice of effects. The number one issue everyone had with him was his opening delivery when approaching people...many of the members that night were positive the public would never connect with a magician such as Blaine and that he had shot himself in the foot by releasing that special...
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You have some great routines, but please keep in mind that a peek wallet is a tool be used in a routine, not the routine itself. Also, keep in mind a set should flow from effect to effect in a nice linear progression. 

Here is an example of what I mean:

I sometimes open with  "getting to know you" by Peter Turner. During this routine, I am setting the premise that it is possible to use their intuition to get to know someone. I then continue by doing a star-sign revelation (propless) before moving to a spectator-as-mind reader effect.

There is a consistent theme throughout the set. I then leave the group and open a different group and do another set (which contains different effects). 

I usually have 3-4 sets and 2-3 stand-alone effects. 

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At the very least, I would change your opening to say "I'm the entertainment" rather than "hired gun". I usually walk up, introduce myself and say "Hi, my name is Brian and I'm your magician for tonight" or "such-and-such has brought me in tonight to be your magician for the evening. May I show you something truly miraculous?" Then I proceed to hit them with a very quick routine to gauge the group. If they want more, I move into something longer and slower-paced. If they aren't into the magic (and believe it or not, there are people who just don't like magic), I thank them for their time and move on to the next group.

Calling yourself the "hired gun" sort of devalues yourself. You've spent a lot of time and effort into learning your routines, the subtleties that make mentalism work, and the perfect scripting. It is their privilege to spend a few moments seeing something unexplainable in their otherwise ordinary day. Let them know they are about to see a professional at work.

Maybe: "Hi, my name is Logan. I am a mentalist and I've been brought in by <whoever hired you> to make the evening very interesting. Do you believe in ESP? (regardless of answer) Let me show you something."

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Hi, my name is Logan, and I am sort of the hired gun here tonight..can I ask you, Do you believe in ESP ? Great! Would you like to see something ?

The part "I am sort of the hired gun here tonight" seems like you're devaluing yourself.
If you wanted to go with that, you either ARE the hired gun or you ARE NOT the hired gun.
"Sort of" sounds like you're not even sure yourself.

You also say that this is what you say to the first group.
Do you say the same thing to the groups that follow or do you have something else in mind?
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"""Hi, my name is Logan, and I am sort of the hired gun here tonight..can I ask you, Do you believe in ESP ?""""""

85% (and probably more) of the people don't even know what ESP means. So how could they answer you?



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Eugene Burger was really good at coming up with an opening line that evoked interest in what he was about to do.
If you haven't yet, you should read his booklet "Intimate Power."
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Hi everyone,

My intro really isn't mine, it's Mark Strivings which I saw him do on one of his videos. It's quick and to the point and let's people know that your the entertainment the event has brought in. Ok, I agree with you that the term " sort of " is kind of weak or that I maybe making myself less than desirable than I should be. I can change that.

If I do a long intro I am thinking that they might not want to watch me. Magic Brian your intro is pretty good IMHO and worth trying out the next time I get called to perform. Even if they say "no" they don't believe in ESP, they still want to watch what I do.

As for the material for the walk around gig itself the peek wallet comes into play  when I ask a participant, if you could pose a question to the Universe, what would that question be ? They write that on the back of a business card, then it goes into the wallet, then I come VERY close to divining what they wrote.

If the party is very big I will just do one routine and go on to the next group, if the party is not so big, I can do maybe 2 routines, I just play it by feel. I don't want to go on with one group too long.

I'll have more to add later.

PS: I do think that adding the person who hired you into your intro is pretty good and that's something I can do.
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I'm sure there are a LOT of people like me in the world who are going to be a smart aleck and reply, "Do I believe in ESP? You tell me." I'm not saying the ESP question is good or bad. I'm just saying "be prepared."
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Hi everyone,

My intro really isn't mine, it's Mark Strivings which I saw him do on one of his videos. 

If I do a long intro I am thinking that they might not want to watch me.


So, perhaps the into works for Mr. Strivings. Or perhaps not. I still contend that you need to come up with your own unique opening based on your style and personality.

Remember that the average laymen doesn't have a clear understanding of what a mentalist is or does.

True, a long intro would be counterproductive. Since contrived terms like psychic entertainer or magician of the mind are usually perceived as silly, it would probably be best to show rather than tell. What mental "quickie" might generate interest, act as an intro, and establish you as a mentalist? I know they are out there.  


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If you can pose a question to the universe what would it be?
That sounds, to me anyway, like a lot of woo woo horse****.

Why not get close and personal and have it matter? Pull some heartstrings.

Do you remember your first crush?
Do you remember your first kiss?
Did anyone here go to their high school prom? I went to a Ramones concert instead. That's why I ask? Who was your date? Do you remember what they wore?
Think about the first car you ever owned. Mine was a 76 Ford Econoline van with a 351 Windsor and a C6 transmission. It looked big and boxy, but it was fast. Do you remember how much you paid for it?

Get the mental juices flowing about stuff they already know; stuff they have an emotional connection to. You can pose these as single questions or in the last two you can have them write a few things down and you can divine it all...or as much as you want.

Who has kids? How many? Really, I have 3 birds and 2 bald rats. How many boys and girls? Are they here tonight? Good, write down your favorite kid on the back of my card. They'll never know.

All this leads into some stimulating conversation as you learn about your audience and they learn about you.
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Excellent ideas and suggestions, Evil One!
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Maybe we can help you come up with something stronger; something that works best for you. But as the Evil One wrote, we would need more information. Can you describe your style? Your manner? How do you dress? Do you present yourself as a "serious" mentalist or do you inject humor and take a more lighthearted approach? Is your goal to entertain or to baffle or both? What do you want your audeinces to remember about you?
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Style and manner is that I'am very easy going, I mostly wear a blazer and dress slacks and sometimes I wear a tie. No, I don't really present myself as a " serious " mentalist, but, use humor, but, the best humor comes from the spectators themselves. My goal is to amaze first and entertain second. What I want is for them to have them have have a mind blowing experience, just like all magicians do.

EVILDAN,

You do know I am from California lol.

Your right, I shouldn't present my new-age beliefs in my performances. Getting a message from the Universe, asking the Universe for guidance will work with some groups here, but, I like your ideas better. I might run into some one who doesn't believe the way I believe. I need to put the audience at ease when I am doing the work.

I know this is hard to do without looking at a video, but, thanks for your advice! Do you have anymore questions for me ? Anyone ?

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Logan, playing up your new age philosophy, here's a brief intro for your consideration. If it resonates, then play with it, personalize it, and make it yours. 'tis but one of many possibilities...

Hi. My name is Logan. I was invited here tonight by [host's name] to entertain with mysteries of the mind. You see, perhaps like some of you, I believe in the boundless potential of the human mind to operate beyond the five known senses. May I show you what I mean?


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I like it ! I will play with it..

Thanks Anthony


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