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Or, is this another pseudo science ? I should have taking more effort in my youth to develop my penmanship, but, I was one of those kids who preferred reading books. My penmanship is not pretty,but I take this subject with a grain of salt. In school we were taught to write in cursive, and if you wasn't sleeping or daydreaming in class, it makes sense that you developed the classic slant and font of letters, even though it changes a bit over time.

Share your thoughts as I would be curious on what others may think. Also, what routines can be done with a graphology theme ?

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I've never seen any hard evidence that it is a realistic study. My friend often says that it must be true because of some government entities use it.  My counter argument is that astrology isn't any more real because presidents have used it. I've seen little to no empirical evidence to suggest that it is an accurate indicator of anything other than penmanship abilities. I've looked for peer-reviewed studies, but haven't found any that make conclusive arguments. Due to the lack of real scientific evidence, I would classify it in the category of pseudoscience. That being said, it can be used as a compelling premise for a personality reading. Andy Nyman also has a great routine that uses graphology as the premise. 

Just because it's not real, doesn't mean a great routine cant use it as a believable premise. I've also learned to write in different styles. That way my handwriting can impersonate that of a woman in a seance routine.

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No. It is pseudoscience. At least that is my opinion based on a marked lack of evidence to support the claim. Here are a couple of interesting links that you might enjoy reading. Sure, there are boatloads of articles out there supporting the efficacy of graphology, but they are written by supporters of the claim.

https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Tests/grapho.html

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/vol3no3/html/v03i3a04p_0001.htm



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Due to the lack of real scientific evidence, I would classify it in the category of pseudoscience. That being said, it can be used as a compelling premise for a personality reading.


Yeah I agree, more than 25 years ago I purchased a ultra-thin wallet from Ray Piatt to do a graphology routine with called Psi-Graphico,It was basically a Q&A routine done with folded index cards. I only did this once in front of a real live audience because I goofed up by forgetting the one-ahead question, so I couldn't continue the routine. I had purchased a book on graphology and used it to do my personality readings with.

The audience ate that personality reading stuff up. It sounded legit to them.

And at the time, it sounded legit to me as well.

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You can turn anything into an oracle. At ren faires, I've seen readers give readers based on a"bag of stuff" that the sitter picked and got to keep. It was filled with cheap giveaways the likes you can buy from Oriental Trading company.
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Unlike Penn & Teller, I don't think everything is Bulls***. There is more to life than what we can currently understand.

Like I said I'll take graphology with a grain of salt. I am also looking into Reverse Speech as a interest, not so much to do routines with but, as a manifestation of the unconscious mind.

I guess, I'll always be a seeker.

http://reversespeech.com/reversals/
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I can completely understand that Logan. Although I am skeptical of many things and would call a lot of things BS, I still like a little mystery in life. I don't think science can explain everything, nor do I believe everything can be explained. That being said, as a student of communication with a degree in the subject, I am particularly skeptical of Graphology and reverse speech. Although I believe Joshua Quinn has a routine that uses it as the premise. 
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It may all be BS but 2 oracles that seem to hit way more often than not are palm reading and Psy Cards.
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Psycards are very direct and to the point. On the School For Scoundrels message board Ron Martin tips his Psycards layout in the secret sessions on the forum. He goes under the name of Mittcamp.

I did a search and couldn't find their website. But it's a very good presentation.

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When I started in the financial world, in London, I discovered that Warburgs (an important British investment bank, ultimately bought by UBS) required a handwriting test for all new recruits at the insistence of its founder.
Personally I see it as pseudo science without real value (I suppose it could point to tidiness and neatness) but at the very least it has been taken seriously and could be a presentational ploy.

Following is an interesting article on the subject from the Financial Times: http://on.ft.com/2vOpgir

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