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Logan Five

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This has to me has been one of those effects that get's lot's of reactions for the positive.

None of my books or tapes cover this, where can I find this effect? Is it hard to do?

If I worked in a bar, I would do this.

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Doc Eason has an DVD just on this theme..Derek Dingle has a routine in The Complete Works,

in Spellbinder is a routine of Stephen Tucker (have to look it up if you are interersted) , I am sure that all good barmagicians, Heba Haba Al, Scotty York or Randy Wakeman (there is nothing in Randy Wakeman Presents, have to look up Formula One..), Fechter, Matt Schulien (he has some Crad in Glass routines as has Jose Caroll) or Simon Lovell have a routine. Jim Sisti perhaps in his Magic Menue Magazine....could be a start...


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Bannon published a version in Smoke and Mirrors. He called it Underhanded. I never performed it, but the version he describes doesn't seem too difficult with sufficient practice.

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...just googled Randy Wakeman and Card Under Glass, it is on a DVD Lake Tahoe Bar Magic

and of course J.C. Wagner in The Commercial Magic Of J.C. Wagner, Card Under Drink, p.101
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Not exactly card under glass, but a nice rendition of card under box that I've tried to learn/practice.



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Logan Five

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Thank you guys - you are all awesome!
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..two more, out of Fork Full Of Appetizers, Vol.2, there is one routine of William (Bill) Miesel Twice Under The Shot and one by Tom Mullica Repeat Card Under Ashtray..


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I have the Doc Eason Card Under Glass 2-DVD Set.  And for the right offer, I might just be persuaded to part with it ...
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I love this effect.  And I don't do it often enough.  It boils down to creating and seizing opportunity and not being afraid.  It is horribly daunting to be so bold in magic.  The one that is worse are things like coin on shoulder.  I know a guy, (Rod Boss) who would do this, almost anything on shoulder, and I would cringe everytime I saw him do it.  And it became his signature effect.   I just don't have that kind of nerve.  Card under glass?  yup, can do that one though. 
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Logan Five

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Not exactly Card Under The Glass, but, done with the proper misdirection it's still a great effect.




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Bannon's "Underhanded" (as mentioned by Av) is the only one I've worked on - the misdirection is good, but I'm still trying to make it flow better for me. I do love the concept of the trick, though.

Slightly off the point, but I have been also trying to work out something using "card under glass" and then ending with "card in glass" (which is in the volume of "Card College" that teaches the top palm - very pretty trick, I think).

Once the card has been loaded twice under the glass - follow it with a variation of "The Invisible Card" (also from "Card College", a trick by Tamariz). It uses the "Rub-a-dub" change, which seems to work with a glass, too, instead of just the hand. "Loose" the selection, DL to show you put an indifferent card under the glass (thumb it off under the glass a la the "Rub-a-dub"), and reveal the change after rubbing the glass on the card a few times. Then do the "Rub-a-dub" with the glass to make the selection vanish - same as if you did it with the hand but use the glass, shading it all with the back of the right hand. 

And to end, the vanished card isn't under the glass, but in the glass (as with the Giobbi trick).
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Doc Eason has an DVD just on this theme


I second Doc Eason. He also discusses it in one of the “Bar Magic” volumes. Don’t remember which one as I only have it on VHS and currently don’t have a player.
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J.C. Wagner was the master of this concept. But Heba Haba Al was THE master. I was lucky enough to have seen him several times at the New York Lounge in Chicago. It was a block from Magic Inc. so you could hang out at Magic Inc. and then walk to NY Lounge for a beer and some awesome magic. Heba Haba would often do it six times in a row.

I think Card Under Glass is a lot of fun. But when done as a running gag, it becomes a battle of wits instead of magic. It's obvious that the magician is misdirecting and sneaking the card under the glass. The spec inevitably begin to try to catch the magician. It's still a fun bit, though. 

There was a version where the 2nd time under the bottle was a double in alignment. As I recall, the card is not looked at at this point. Then by twisting the bottle, a second card appears. At this point the cards are shown to be two selections.  I forget where this comes from??

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At a small lecture (so we were all really close) JC kept repeating  card under glass throughout the whole lecture.  Burnt us all, every time.  He did mention not to do that with spectators.
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Hi Tom,

As I said above, "I think card under glass is a lot of fun."

I too have seen J.C. use it as a running gag. He performed and lectured at 4F the year before he died. I got to spend some quality time with him. I'm not denigrating the routine. I'm just suggesting that it's not magic. 

I think that spectators would say something like "This guy kept sneaking my card under his drink!! I could never catch him." Rather than, "My card kept appearing under his drink. Unbelievable!"

How about the repeated force of a card as in "Don't take that 7D again. Oh you did. Here take a different one. No not the 7D! Try again. Why do you keep taking the 7D?"

This is certainly fun but I think it's a bad idea. You're just proving that you can make them take the card you want them to take. Later, when you say "Pick a card. Take ANY card.", do you think they feel that it's really a free choice??

I don't think that CUG is a bad idea, though. It doesn't undermine subsequent happenings.

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