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Mind Phantom

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What is your favorite routine using a spectators phone ?

Thanks in advance..

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I have a cool routine for the Kenner rising card routine from Dan and Dave.

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I try to avoid borrowing anything of value. That said, I have had some success with a routine from Michael Weber's Life Savers called The Laying on of Hands. It's an impromptu mental effect using several objects on hand. I have used a spectator's cellphone as one of the objects. Close enough?

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I would go for Icurvball by Oz pearlman
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This effect you need to use your own phone but it doesn't really matter because of how powerful it is! The effect is called cipher from ellusionist. It is a really strong effect.
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Inject 2.0. Tons of stuff using it.
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I have a picture of me outside Curly's restaurant in Colon, Mi on a nice sunny day, and I'm holding a card back facing the the phone/camera.  I show the spectators the picture and use it as a prediction just sitting on the table in plain view.  Then I have a card selected, and either lost or just show that I in fact had predicted the card they would select.  Then I zoom in on the reflection of the face of the card on the restaurant window, to reveal their selected card.  I get great reactions every time.  I use my phone, but I could easily e-mail it to their phone, then have the card selected, then have them look at the pic in the e-mail.

I also recently saw Shawn Farquhar at the Magi-Fest perform his card to wallet routine using his wallet and the Rainbow Phantom Card from Seo Magic.  You then use their phone and take a picture of them holding the wallet with their finger pointing to the blank view window on the wallet (like where you would put a driver's license).  Then when they see the picture, it shows the card, in the wallet, below their finger, and they have a permanent memory.
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Highly recommend Asi Wind's Double Exposure.
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The easiest effect using their phone is "Life Equation" by Peter Turner. It's his handling of an Annemann idea. You reveal a number and you never look at or touch their phone. I also like pin code reveals. Michael Murray has some fantastic ideas concerning that plot.

I also use inject 2.0 second sometimes. I'm just not a big fan methods that are completely dependent on technology. Nothing beats a good ol' peek and theatrics

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Creating your own ideas and presentations for effects utilizing phones is great fun. Other performers can inspire when you are starting out, but nothing compares to devising something unique to you.

This excerpt from a recent article on technology has inspired me to create another phone effect:

There is growing concern that as well as addicting users, technology is contributing toward so-called “continuous partial attention”, severely limiting people’s ability to focus, and possibly lowering IQ. One recent study showed that the mere presence of smartphones damages cognitive capacity – even when the device is turned off. “Everyone is distracted,” Rosenstein says. “All of the time.”

At the present time I am having fun with my new creation and may share it in the future.

Studying the works of Ted Annemann inspired Peter Turner to create new effects with smartphones... there's so much to be found in the old manuscripts, unfortunately it seems most folk are distracted by the constant need, or want, of the new.
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Welcome back, Socrates!

That's an interesting quote and can see why it would be inspiration for a new effect.

I'm a huge fan of looking back onto the classics and rediscovering hidden gems. I bought the Jinx a few years back and still refer back to it all the time. That being said, I also sometimes find myself wanting the new. But when I get the new, I realize the exact method was described back in the jinx.

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The Jerx in Jamm#5 has a nice Acaan with a stooge but then came out with a phone version you can do without any help. But that version was sent out in a bonus feature if you bought issue 5. 
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Inject 2.0 - Greg Rostami
Digital Force Bag - Nick Einhorn
Cipher app

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Highly recommend Asi Wind's Double Exposure.


I love this effect and purchased it a while back. Unfortunately, I really have to work on my pressure fan. It looks horrible when I do it.

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Recently bought Greg Rostami's 'Cosmos 3' deck and do his 'Alternate Reality' routine which uses a specatators phone. Been getting great reactions with it !




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Code Breaker from Michael Murray and Gregory Wilson is super strong!

It is the best $10 I've ever spent on magic.

I use it with two spectators... the thoughtful, mnemonic one and the practical, ergonomic thinker.

"Once upon a time, we were a much more interesting civilization... especially our deep, dark secrets... now we post those on Instagram and use our human memory to store passwords!"

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Another great effect 'Powerball 6000' - Uses Powerball 60 and iForce app (Greg Rostami)



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Hands down INJECT 2.0 app - Greg Rostami is jam packed with great effects.



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iForce ... not expensive and useful for many great effects !



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iForce ... not expensive and useful for many great effects !





I really enjoy iForce and used the heck out of it for awhile.  And it doesn't even look like its the app.  Despite that I found that most people, even though they don't know how its done they just suspect it has something to do with the phones.   

Unfortunately anything electronic becomes suspect these days. 

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Unfortunately anything electronic becomes suspect these days. 


I suppose you may be right. But if I use a Lippincott box or RSVP Box or any other prop, does the spectator think "I don't know how it was done but it HAD to be that box" ? 
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I suppose you may be right. But if I use a Lippincott box or RSVP Box or any other prop, does the spectator think "I don't know how it was done but it HAD to be that box" ? 


I get your point, and of course it is valid and I wish I had a definitive answer. My opinion however is there is a difference. Here are my thoughts.

I don’t believe Magician’s have to be ‘natural’ and not use props. I believe it depends on your presentation. If wizardly then you would use wizardlike props. Brass boxes, magic wands, all sorts of things that fit. They are not suspect because they fit the character. You are telling a story of old. A lippimcot box is a Magician’s magical tool. Maybe it does have unique powers. It’s part of the magic. Again it depends on presentation, character etc.

It’s difficult for me to see a phone or tablet as a Magician’s tool. For it to have special powers or what have you. Perhaps a more modern slant on magic would make this possible, but I’m not of this generation therefore can’t wrap my head around it and I think that telegraphs to my spectators.

In my head I see a computer and to me that is magic in itself. How, for instance can I type on this keyboard and it appears in the screen in front of me. Now that is magic to me. So when I see something like Iforce, which I have, have used and love. But I can’t help but think it’s so obviously the computer and people are so smart about such things that they have to know. I don’t see it as magical to my, often younger and more hip spectators.

Sorry this is long winded it is just hard for me to explain, and I see both sides, Perhaps it’s just best to say it’s just not for me?

And to add to the debate, I see nothing wrong with adding a flourish to a card trick. I am a magician and specialize in cards I am better at handling them than the other person. And I can show it off, Of course moderation is a necessity otherwise it becomes a juggling display. Amazing in itself but not magic.

Just my thoughts

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Appreciate the response.

So.... guys like Harry Lorayne & John Carey (and maybe you if you just do borrowed deck card stuff) don't have to worry about such things.

For now, I use 4 iPhone apps and as yet, I have not gotten suspicious looks, comments etc. I only will do maybe 1 or 2 phone things (1 using my phone ie iForce, Digital Force Bag or Cipher, and 1 using spectators phone ... Inject 2.0) in a 15-20 minute set of stuff, so I don't over-do it.
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I do worry. And I am thrilled that you are getting good responses, See, it works for you good reason to keep exploring this type of effect. Like I said i like Iforce. I think of all the apps it comes closest to not being ‘the device’ because all you are seemingly doing is using it for a note pad. So I really do get it. I just can’t seem to pull it off. But I am glad you can, maybe I’ll give it another go.

I also like the app, I forget the name and I don’t have it anymore. But you have a chosen card face down on the table and the spectator places their hand on the card. You then take your phone and show them the scanner device you got, you hold the phone with the scanner device on and an X-ray of their hand shows up on the screen complete with the xray of the card underneath, and because it’s an X-ray it shows the card is indeed the chosen card.

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I think you've hit at the heart of the matter.... attitude about doing 'X' .... for me, if I'm not up to snuff on a sleight, I think I may 'telegraph' that to my audience. And so for you, you perceive that they'll be suspicious so you avoid it.

If you do get back into these apps, check out Nick Einhorn's Digital Force Bag. Another thing that does not look like an 'app' ... uses your iPhone Notes app.... it can replace Svenpads for times when you need a force.


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Isolation by Justin Miller looks pretty interesting.

Anyone have it?


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Using a spectator's phone? I love Telefoto by Greg Rostami. 


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I would do Social Prediction by Debjit Magic with the spectator's phone. It's fun to watch them freak out
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