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I have always enjoyed Alex Elmsley's Dazzle and have always wanted to it or some version of it which is described in his Collected Works Vol.2.  

I know John Bannon also released Razzle which is based on Elmsley's trick. I have watched the demo videos for Razzle and read some reviews but it doesn't really make me feel the same as Dazzle.

I believe getting good gaff cards for Dazzle can be difficult but as a trial I have been thinking about making my own cards with hand made designs on double blanks which I assume will work for practicing and helping me decide if I really want to do this trick or not. 

Anyway does anyone have any experience with either routine and comments about undertaking to learning either one?

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Bannon's comes with the cards, so that's a plus.
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You can purchase the cards for dazzle at this link: https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic/card-magic/dazzle/
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Bannon's comes with the cards, so that's a plus.


Certainly worth considering. The cost of Razzle (cards and DVD) is similar to a set of Dazzle cards.

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You can purchase the cards for dazzle at this link: https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic/card-magic/dazzle/


Yes I have seen these and sent them a couple of questions concerning the backs (i.e. are the various back types or just different rider back colours.

I also found another site Mimesis Magic which makes Dazzle and other gaff card sets but I have no experience in dealing with them.

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I think Steve Reynolds has a version of Dazzle that comes with cards. 

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I also found another site Mimesis Magic which makes Dazzle and other gaff card sets but I have no experience in dealing with them.


I've used them and had a great experience. The Evil One turned me onto them when I was looking for a particular type of gaffed deck. (Mimesis's "BETTER" series of decks are wonderful; smooth as butter and easy to handle.) Service was prompt and the items arrived within days. I would use them again.

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I've ordered a couple things from Mimesis and would definitely order again.  Not sure (ie. can't remember) what the issue was, but there were a couple of people that didn't care for Bannon's version.
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There is also Bruce Cervon's "Dirty Deal" version of the effect. 
Derek Dingle's "Poor Charlie" is another. 
Paul Gordon released a version through Aldo Colombini, Paul can probably tell you what it is called. 

I was always partial to Nick Trost's "Razzle Dazzle.

I finally just looked at John B's version, "Sizzle" (which I think is what Wayne meant to refer to initially). I never shelled out $25 for it when first released. I had other versions so thought $25 expensive for a packet trick. I remember seeing one bad review when it was released which I thought was odd considering John's packet tricks have always been good. Having seen it I think it's good. John does a performance at the bottom of the page linked below.

http://www.johnbannonmagic.com/dvds/sizzle.html

Here's Razzle Dazzle:



Dirty Deal:



And for anyone that hasn't seen the ORIGINAL here's a clip of Alex Elmsley himself doing "Dazzle".




One plus to "Sizzle" for some, of course, is that everything can be examined at the conclusion!
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Most of the time, it's difficult to beat the original... [smile]
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... stuff deleted ... I finally just looked at John B's version, "Sizzle" (which I
think is what Wayne meant to refer to initially).
 

Paul, thanks for the clarification, I did misidentify the Bannon trick as Razzle, sorry for any confusion I caused.   

I do like the Nick Trost version you posted (first time I have seen it) and will definitely look into that version as do I like the finish.



 

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The Steve Reynolds trick is Restless Colors Reset. I bought it and the instructions do not offer the set up. You have to go to a site that i typed in and it didnt come up. So i have not been able to do it yet
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I do think Elmsley's version is a little long and could be shortened. 
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I do think Elmsley's version is a little long and could be shortened. 



Agreed it could be shortened bit but as a closer or you could even add more changes (kind of like how many clowns can come out of that VW Beetle?) but given the short attention spans of some people but shorter might play better.

I found the instructions for Nick Trost's Razzle Dazzle and I can build that packet from cards I have on hand (I certainly can't make the Elmsley packet). I think I will try and fool around with Razzle Dazzle and maybe make my own variation "SHRAZZLED" with appropriate credits to Elmsley, Trost, and Bannon as inspired by Paul Hallas. [biggrin]

In any event this gives me something to work on over the Christmas holidays and drive my family nuts.

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Other color changing backs routines: Swain's "The Capitulating Queens" and Ronay's "Sympathetic Aces."

It was the Ronay item that got me started in magic. I had bought some self workers at Tannens and then someone demoed Sympathetic Aces. I bought it and finally mastered the Elmsley and Jordan counts needed to perform it. It was the first sleight of hand trick for me. 

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I do like the Nick Trost version you posted (first time I have seen it) and will definitely look into that version as do I like the finish.

 


It is detailed in Nick Trost's Subtle Card Creations Vol. 2. 

I purchased the last six of Nick's original marketed version from him years back and sold them at a Blackpool convention. We swapped a few letters but I never had the opportunity of meeting him.  

In the video clip I'd made it up in poker cards (the original were Fox Lake bridge size cards) and used a blank back rather than the green plaid back in the original. 
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Other color changing backs routines: Swain's "The Capitulating Queens" and Ronay's "Sympathetic Aces."


Another vote for Swain's The Catapulting Queens: it is killer! It's simple, quick, and it's got a powerful kick.

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Other color changing backs routines: Swain's "The Capitulating Queens" and Ronay's "Sympathetic Aces."

It was the Ronay item that got me started in magic. I had bought some self workers at Tannens and then someone demoed Sympathetic Aces. I bought it and finally mastered the Elmsley and Jordan counts needed to perform it. It was the first sleight of hand trick for me. 

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There are so many color changing back routines now. I mentioned the ones that were specifically based on "Dazzle" Roy Walton had one in print too, I think it was called "Restless Colours."

Sympathetic Aces was a great trick too, John Bannon had been unaware of that when he put out the similar, but better constructed "Royal Scam" , he was basing it on Walton's "Cascade if I remember correctly.  Again, Roy Walton had something similar to the Ronay trick in one of his books.

Aldo Colombini's "Leprechauns" was another fun version of "Sympathetic Aces". A good evolution of the latter sympathetic effects was Paul Gordon's "The Ultimate Sting" which speeded thing up a bit (except when I do it) and had a funnier climax (some backs still change).  
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It is detailed in Nick Trost's Subtle Card Creations Vol. 2. 

I purchased the last six of Nick's original marketed version from him years back and sold them at a Blackpool convention. We swapped a few letters but I never had the opportunity of meeting him.  

In the video clip I'd made it up in poker cards (the original were Fox Lake bridge size cards) and used a blank back rather than the green plaid back in the original. 


Thanks Paul, as I mentioned above I have instructions and I made up a deck like yours in the video also using blanks. I really like it so I am going to keep working on it and put Dazzle on the back burner until I get this one down pat.

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Another vote for Swain's The Capitulating Queens is killer! It's simple, quick, and it's got a powerful kick.

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This has been superseded in more recent years by Liam Montier's "B'rainiac" in the little booklet "Triabolical" by him and John Bannon. Similar plot, more magic and ends clean.

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This has been superseded in more recent years by Liam Montier's "B'rainiac" in the little booklet "Triabolical" by him and John Bannon. Similar plot, more magic and ends clean.



Wow! And it ends clean? I’ll have to check that out. Thanks for the recommendation, Paul.

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This has been superseded in more recent years by Liam Montier's "B'rainiac" in the little booklet "Triabolical" by him and John Bannon. Similar plot, more magic and ends clean.



I'm intrigued. Saw that Triabolical was out of print, but that the trick was included on a DVD titled Fractalicious - a bit pricey, but if I could find a copy of Triabolical I'd snatch it up.

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Just dug out Triabolical. I forgot about B'rainiac. There are definitely some cool items in the booklet.

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Just dug out Triabolical. I forgot about B'rainiac. There are definitely some cool items in the booklet.

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I made up Montinator 5.0 with jumbo cards and that's how I use it They fit into  a jacket inner breast pocket [smile] 
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Just dug out Triabolical. I forgot about B'rainiac. There are definitely some cool items in the booklet.


Ah well, perhaps they will reprint it at some point. FOund a video of B'raniac and it looks nice.
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