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KenTheriot

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I've been practicing for a couple of years now to do a pressure fan and I simply cannot seem to do it. I'd be happy with a decent 2-handed fan as well. But that isn't getting much better either.

Now at least for the 2-handed one, I can do it quite well when the deck is brand new or nearly so. But after a week or more using the deck, I can't seem to do it anymore - too much space between blocks of cards.

But I know for a fact that once you get these fans down, it doesn't really matter if the deck is new or not. I've seen magicians just grab my deck and instantly do a perfect pressure fan. Gah! Why can't I?

Can I get some advice on how to get from here to there?

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Not sure about how to practice, but Tarbell Lesson 39 (Vol. 3, Pg. 211) deals with fans.

I just looked through Dan Harlan's presentations of Tarbell, and at 1:51:40, he starts discussing fans, and it looks like he goes into pretty decent detail.
Specifically, where to hold the deck, where to put your thumb, which part of your other thumb to use to push the cards across.

Note: I have no idea how to fan cards, so I found an old deck that I've been used for a couple months, and was able to create decent looking fans after watching the Tarbell videos.

(Yup, surprised the heck out of myself.)


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Awesome. Thanks!

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I think like a lot of things, it's bound to 'click' at some point if you keep practicing and experimenting with finger position and pressure. Can you do a good card spring?
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Thanks Guys. I am checking out The Tarbell instructions now and am finding it very helpful in that his description for a "simple" fan (or 2-handed fan) is a bit different from what I've been shown and I can get a lot of variation by holding it in what seems to be an endless variation of options on where my left 1st and 2nd fingers are on the back of the deck. Really interesting. So now it is a matter of honing in on what works for my particular hand shape and size I think. 

For his "Modern" fan, which is the pressure fan, the illustrations help a lot.

Thanks again!

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I think like a lot of things, it's bound to 'click' at some point if you keep practicing and experimenting with finger position and pressure. Can you do a good card spring?


I think you're right. And about my card spring. It's not great. It's not hopeless like it was originally - spraying cards everywhere around the room. I can at least get them to land in my hand now. But more often than not they sort of come out of the springing hand in spurts rather than one long smooth spring. And even when they do come off in one springing action, the cards seem to turn in flight and I end up with the cards pointing in different directions after they land. But someone showed me during a break at the Michael Ammar lecture last month a different way to hold the deck - more at the diagonal corners than just in the middle of the short edges. So I will try that. I have to limit certain kinds of practice because the noise drives my wife crazy. My card spring right now is very noisy:-P.

Thanks for the tips!

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You don't really need a pressure fan if the deck is new. Also it can really warp a deck. The bend and release is very similar to the card spring motion, so that is a good technique to practice. (If you are having trouble, don't go for distance... spring it with your hands very close)
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Thanks Geoff. Yeah I'm noticing that. And I also figured out that If I don't want to crawl around picking up cards, I need to keep my hands close[smile].

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And practice over a bed or couch (easier on your back). I found that practicing springing helped a lot (probably strengthened the hands) and when I do a pressure fan, the motion (other than the twist to create the fan) is almost identical. That said, I really end up bending the cards so I have basically abandoned the move.
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Thanks Sean. I'm noticing that as well - that I'm putting a crease across the middle of my cards and ruining the decks. I wonder if that happens once you get the fan down correctly. Do the people who actually use the pressure fan often end up putting those creases in? Or is there a sweet spot where you can do the pressure fan and NOT crease the cards?
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