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I've just begun my journey into memorized decks. I can't believe how much fun this is[smile]

I've been working for years (even before I was into magic!) with the peg and link system that is the same one that Harry Lorayne lays out in his memory books. So that really gave me a head start on my journey.

Then in the most recent MUM magazine, Michael Close did a review (which he rarely does anymore these days) of a new product called “In Order to Amaze” by Pit Hartling. His review of that book was so compelling that I decided it was time. In that review he also mentioned getting started (for those who, like me, had zero experience with memorized decks) by going to Simon Aronson's site (http://magicians.simonaronson.com/) and downloading his free pdf called "Memories are Made of This," which I read through last night.  

So far I've memorized a grand total of 8 cards in the Aronson Stack:-P. Woohoo!

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Hi Ken!

You won't regret it, it is a tool that will last you a lifetime, you can perform miracles with a stacked deck! And the book, in order to amaze, is great!

Have fun [smile]

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   And you can perform even "better" miracles with a borrowed deck!
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Thanks Daniel and Harry! I love it when I get feedback that I am on the right path for something great[smile].

I've memorized the first half of the stack so far. But I do NOT have it down well enough that it's immediate. I have to still "translate" the pegs and links in my head for a few seconds. But that's after only one day! Aronson says it takes about a month to get it down to that immediate knowledge. I've created flash cards for aiding in my learning, and then there is the Aronson Stack Flashcard quizzer on his site here: http://simonaronson.com/quizzer/quizzer.htm

Thanks again!

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    A MONTH?!?! I have no idea as to how you're applying my systems if, in fact, you are applying my systems. People over the decades and all over the world have memorized a shuffled deck of cards in minutes (I mean as little as five or six minutes) applying my methods - if they were already familiar with my methods. Some did it after one "call off" of a shuffled deck. Somewhere here in the forum I think I described the effect I did for actor Victor Jory which was a pivot point in my life - I was 19/20 years old at the time. It's a memory routine after the shuffled cards are called out once and fairly quickly.
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Harry, yes I am applying your systems. The "one month" thing comes from Aronson. He says "...regardless of how extensively you rely on a mnemonic system to first learn a memorized deck, once you become proficient, the entire mental sub-structure of phonetics, words, images and associations soon entirely drops out of the picture. After a month you’ll find that, when you see a playing card, you’ll instantly and automatically know its stack number, and vice versa. The system eventually will establish the memorized deck as a direct, conscious and un-assisted memory link. Trust me."

Like I said, it did only take me a very short time to memorize the first half of the deck just last night. But it isn't to that stage that Aronson describes as when "the entire mental sub-structure of phonetics, words, images and associations soon entirely drops out of the picture," so that you can "instantly and automatically know its stack number, and vice versa."

I'll report back when I get to that point, however long it takes.

Thanks again!

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Hi all

Even if you dont use the tamariz stack ( for me and most europeans the most widly used here) you should get his mnemonica book.

Lots of good routines some only work with his stack, many work with any stack.

The important part here is the first part of the book where he explains several methods to memorise a deck.

Ive learned his full stack in one week and he even has a fail safe method in case you forget and just having that insurance will get you rid of any nerves that might make you forget.

Get it you wont regret it [smile]

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Oh and i forgot.

You can end you crad routine with the deck in new deck order from the tamariz stack wich is a great ending for a routine [smile]

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Oh and i forgot.

You can end you card routine with the deck in new deck order from the tamariz stack wich is a great ending for a routine [smile]

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   Amazing - a month? A week?  People who know my system/technique/method for memorizing cards, memorize a deck in MINUTES. You gotta' start reading the good stuff, guys!

 

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   Just dug up one testimonial of the literally thousands I have - this one is apropos, of course - I think it makes my point. I'll bold/italic that "point." (Also, somewhere in this forum, I think - I told the story of what I consider a pivot point in my life - I was 19/20 years old. It has to do with the then well-known actor, Victor Jory, and also has to do with memorizing a deck...position of every card - when the deck is shuffled and cards are called off once.)

"Hi Harry,

 

I have had your "Super Memory" book in the collection for many years. Now that I am 52, I thought I should study it. Only a couple weeks later, I am able to memorize a deck of cards in about 5 minutes - something I try to do once a day, lest I forget how to remember!

 

I am sure that I am not unique in singing your praises regarding your work - but what could it hurt? Thanks for the many years of entertainment, and a special thanks for teaching me mnemonics. You are the greatest."

 

Steve Shufton

 

P.S. Shabbat Shalom!

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Originally Posted by Harry Lorayne
   Just dug up one testimonial of the literally thousands I have - this one is apropos, of course - I think it makes my point. I'll bold/italic that "point." (Also, somewhere in this forum, I think - I told the story of what I consider a pivot point in my life - I was 19/20 years old. It has to do with the then well-known actor, Victor Jory, and also has to do with memorizing a deck...position of every card - when the deck is shuffled and cards are called off once.)

"Hi Harry,

 

I have had your "Super Memory" book in the collection for many years. Now that I am 52, I thought I should study it. Only a couple weeks later, I am able to memorize a deck of cards in about 5 minutes - something I try to do once a day, lest I forget how to remember!

 

I am sure that I am not unique in singing your praises regarding your work - but what could it hurt? Thanks for the many years of entertainment, and a special thanks for teaching me mnemonics. You are the greatest."

 

Steve Shufton

 

P.S. Shabbat Shalom!



That is a great testimonial!

Mine isn't as astounding, but I will say that I would not have wanted to memorize the Tamariz stack without your memory system!!

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Harry,

Which memory book of yours would be the best to learn from?
I would like to work on having someone call out a shuffled deck and being able to:
1. call the deck back in the same order.
2. have someone call out a poker hand and tell them which cards to count down to and remove.

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          Either AGELESS MEMORY or THE MEMORY BOOK - both teach my card-memory system. What you describe is what I used to do - it will take some work. I can't guarantee that everyone will be able to do it, but everyone will sure be able to remember cards better than dreamed possible. Anyway...go to harryloraynemagic.com and click on Memory Products to learn more. HL.
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Just ordered The Memory Book...looking forward to seeing how I can use it to reinforce my current stack.  I went the brute force method years ago and it worked well for me...but I am looking forward to learning the memory techniques!


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   Whyncha" order it from me?! Could've gotten it autographed free of charge!!!
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