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When I say “Master”, I mean one with a Wide range of practicable Craft in Magic. They can amaze you close-up, blow you away on stage and with Illusions. Play straight, go funny or maybe even a little blue depending on the occassion. They run the gammut from cards, thimbles, theory, principle, Thumb tip to Pepper’s Ghost... they are walking historians (most of whom consult to the greats and nearly greats we all love). They know marketing, sales, design and they are well versed in craftsmanship and associated arts.

And they are dieing. One by one, leaving the world of magic for the “big secret”....Johnny Thompson never wrote “The Levitation” book.... we may have lost that knowledge.

Are there new modern masters that will take their places? Who are they? Will quality be maintained? Are the Masters decreasing in numbers? Are they becoming more and more specialized?

PARDON MY PANNIC! But I really need to know!

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Well stated. We still have Marvin Roy and Norm Neilson. I don't know about our generation. Maybe Lance Burton and Mac King. Let's add Jeff McBride and Jay Leslie to that list. How about the next generation.
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We still have Shimada, Wilson....And a few elders over the pond. Our generation does have Copperfield, too. How about the next generation? I see a lot of specialization.
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Personally, I think the day of the magic gp has passed and Johnny was the last great practitioner. I’m not saying whether that is good or bad, just my perspective.
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Paul Daniels was one.
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Teller?

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And who are they now?  It's easy to name Copperfield or Teller.  But let's take it one step further.

Guys like Jason England and Paul Vigil are masters at what they do.  Howard Hamburg, Tom Gagnon, Darwin Ortiz, Jason Ladanye, Lance Pierce, Tony Cabral, George McBride, Eddie McColl and others.  David Roth, Kainoa Harbottle, Curtis Kam, Mickey Silver...all experts at the coin table.  Kenton Knepper, Colin Cloud and other mentalists.

All you have to do is come to a convention like 4F to see the best in the world.  Masters at what they have accomplished.  

No, I'm not worried in the least.  As I've noted elsewhere, magic is more popular than ever, and we know of men and women who are of our generation and younger.  They are the up-and-coming masters, the people whose work will be revered by the generations to come.
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I have some favorite magicians who I consider influential and would even go so far to say are maestros... Asi Wind, Pit Hartling, Dani DaOrtiz, Denis Behr. These are some "young" men who have a very creative approach that many of us are influenced by. In fact, look at two of the four books that I brought with me to Africa (photo below). "In Order to Amaze" by Pit and "Repertoire" by Asi.

I value the work of these men and my book and DVD collection prove it. I believe that magic is in very capable hands.

With that said, look at the other books that I brought with me... Mentallisimo by John Bannon and Afterthoughts by Harry Lorayne. Both of these men aren't young, but (in my opinion) are also masters of magic who have made some incredible contributions to the art.

It's no secret that Harry Lorayne has played a significant part in my life as a magician. As we continue to see some of the greats pass away, it reminds me of the importance of appreciating them while they're here. (Thanks for everything, Maestro Harry!) 

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I think what Barron was getting at was someone who could do it all.  From killer close up to a big stage act.  Johnny was definitely a general practitioner, able to do it all. 
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I think what Barron was getting at was someone who could do it all.  From killer close up to a big stage act.  Johnny was definitely a general practitioner, able to do it all. 


Thanks Tom. I just re-read his post and I can see that now.

Wow, in that case, I don't know that I can think of any magicians who are on that level. I'd still put Harry on that list, but can't think of anyone else. Frank Zak mentioned Teller. I'd agree with that.

I'll have to ponder that for a bit.

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Yes, Penn, Teller, Paul.... all great. All either past or (gulp!!). Who takes the helm, walks in the footsteps??? I agree with Intensely Magic... the days of the great Maistro, the All knowing (as far as possible) is past.......Masters will now be seperated by specific field..... but A Grand Master? I fear those days are soon gone.
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It is hard to think of general practitioners in the Johnny Thompson sense. I wonder if the venues and opportunities even exist to produce this kind of performer in this day and age, and if our connectivity hasn't done away with some of the "jack of all trades" impulse by making it insanely easy to track down and hire others who are already specialists in whatever one would otherwise need to master him- or herself.
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Agreed, Steve! But those aren’t really General Masters. They have very specific skill sets, I doubt most have a thousand levitations, a killer close-up set, remarkable stage act, consulting to the masters..... about any subject called for. I’m still worried!
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Shawn Farquhar has won the IBM First Place Prize in Stage, and also in Sleight of Hand.  He was also the FISM Grand Prix winner for Close Up (as well as placing first or second in several other categories).

Murray Hatfield tours every year with a very successful stage illusion show - and has also performed close-up at the FFFF Close-up Convention.  Greg Frewin is a world-renowned stage illusionist and does killer close-up.

And that's just three guys from Canada!

I'm sure there are many others from the rest of the world - general mastery is not gone.
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Barron, 

Don't panic. Just grab a bath towel and come along for the ride. And there's certainly no need for worry. Magic will endure, not in the same form as today - or even just yesterday - but it will endure.

There are a large number of authorities, or scholars if you will, on the subject of magic across a its entire spectrum. A few names in addition to some already mentioned in this thread: Jim Steinmeyer, Mike Caveny, Dan Harlan, John Lovick, Richard Kaufman, Max Maven, Dominique Duvivier, Dave Solomon, Jean Pierre Vallarino, David Blaine, Juan Tamariz… The list goes on and on and on. Harry Lorayne certainly makes the list. Not all of these names are fulltime performers, and at least two are amateurs. But they still deserve the title of master, perhaps not in the sense of a Johnny Thompson or another general practitioner, but certainly in the sense of one who has mastered an art form, has a sense of place, and an extensive knowledge of the history behind what they do. They know they stand on the shoulders of giants wielding wands and shuffling cards and acknowledge those who came before. They, and we, are part of the long line of magicians extending way back to the first to vanish a small stone while mumbling a few magic words.

Magic will endure because there will always be those who develop a passion for it as an art. It is they who will carry the torch forward into the future, and from my perspective the future of magic looks fine. So swallow a Xanax, grab a towel, and enjoy the ride - it's going to be a wild one! 

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 "All you have to do is come to a convention like 4F to see the best in the world.  Masters at what they have accomplished."  


I wish I could but Obie is only interested in adding International Prize winners to the list of invitees.

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All great comments! But, if you knew the Masters (Darwin, Thompson etc) you’d know that every name mentioned is lacking in depth and knowledge. Color me: Still concerned
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