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Mind Phantom

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Put on your thinking caps and let's talk about this...

#1. It moves you emotionally
#2. It leaves you with a sense of wonderment

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Both of your points were what I felt when I saw David Copperfield's Flying for the very first time on his TV special 26+? years ago... I had a lump in my throat because of his presentation of the effect and I was wondering how he did it... 

I almost always perform for magician friends and when I do an effect that fools them, before the climax they see it coming (and they make funny faces, noises or something that tells me they are already fooled; they have that sense of wonderment before they see the end of the trick). 

Let me think what else I could add to this list...

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1. People care about what's going on.

2. The things that happen along the way are motivated.

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I'm pretty much with Mike here, although I would phrase it differently.

1. People are interested and involved in both the performance and the performer.

2. The underlying structure and narrative make sense in context.

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1. People care about what's going on.

2. The things that happen along the way are motivated.

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Mike,

Yes, being part of the process lets one feel important and a part of the effect.
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that it is magic and the focus 

when the patter steps out of the way and lets the moments, experience, and magic illuminate 

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How are we determining what's good magic?
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Mind Phantom

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Well, that's the $64.000 question isn't it?
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How are we determining what's good magic?



How about.." Truth Is Beauty ", Yates.
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A well rehearsed performance

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An entertaining performer and strong magic.
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Trying to determine what is Good Magic can, and usually does, lead to interesting discussion. But no amount of discussion can ever answer the question.

At the outset, Mind Phantom mentions being moved emotionally and creating a sense of wonderment. That’s a goodly part of it, I’m sure, by which I mean it speaks volumes but doesn’t really say very much. How can it?

Can we possibly determine/define/validate "Good"? No. Like the old saying about Art (upper case, of course) "I don’t know anything about Art, but I know what I like." Or as I prefer it, "I know nothing about Art, but I know it when I see it."

Same with Music, Food, Drink, anything and everything, including and, considering where we are, especially, Magic.

As John Sebastian puts it:

"I'll tell you about the magic, and it'll free your soul

But it's like trying to tell a stranger about rock and roll."

As I say, "interesting discussion," but no hope of resolution.

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