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Cardshark Quixote

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Next month i'll be attending my 2nd IBM meeting & I wanted to do a little routine for them. I noticed on our last one that alot of them lean more towards bigger illusions, coins, & sponge-ball magic. And that's all good because that fools me since i'm mostly a card guy.

When I first started in magic I used to be able to do the cups & balls & other nice stuff. I can still do some coin tricks & magic with rolled-up money or paper-balls.

Well anyways, I wanted to do something that will be different to them. You guys at the forum already know that I do alot of gambling stuff...but they don't. So I will continue to enjoy their style of magic & hopefully they will appreciate mine. Ha. We will never be bored this way. A little bit of everything.

You guys on the forum & the guys I meet up with have inspired me to try out other kinds of magic. I wanna do rope, coin, & sponge-ball tricks now. Lol.

I've been working on this routine. The video only shows about 75% of it because i'm not done with the patter & there's still 2 more phases I want to add. Comments & criticism welcomed. You think they'll enjoy it at our next meet?
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So this is what I think.
You're a newbie and I'm guessing a lot of members don't really know you.
Do this and you'll blow them away just the way it is.
I thought the routine looked very clean and professional.
I think you're going to have a lot of new friends after your performance.
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Thanks EVILDAN.
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I agree with EVILDAN. Excellent technique. You will fry the members of the club.

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I've been watching and really enjoying your videos, CardsharkQuixote. You are very talented and I can tell that you take the art of magic very seriously. I'm so glad that you are a part of our little community.

The only suggestion that I have is to continue talking as you perform the various cuts and shuffles. Those moments of silence create dead time that, in my opinion, aren't necessary and kind of slow down the proceedings and negatively impact the entertainment value.

Thanks for sharing your magic with us!

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I need to start watching the videos with the sound on.
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Thanks for your input Rudy. I agree. I did get the feeling I needed to fill in that silence with more patter. The last 2 days i've been breaking my head trying to figure out what to say. 3 more weeks to work on it.
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Cardshark i have seen a lot of your videos and that is one of the best,so i agree you dont need to change it.
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Thank you culldavid.
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You're there....

Last line:  "Even though he was pressured for the secret, he never revealed it.  AND NEITHER SHALL I."

To your audience, it puts you in the same class as Scarne.  They've just seen you accomplish the impossible.  And it provides closure, as you scoop up the cards.

Well played.

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You're there....

Last line:  "Even though he was pressured for the secret, he never revealed it.  AND NEITHER SHALL I."

To your audience, it puts you in the same class as Scarne.  They've just seen you accomplish the impossible.  And it provides closure, as you scoop up the cards.

Well played.



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Thanks. I like it.
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Your card handling is superb! I agree with Rudy about the need for patter to cover some of the cuts. In particular the (flawlessly executed) slip cut to reveal aces two and three was detectable primarily because of the silence accompanying the move. Good work!
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Thanks. I'll make sure there's patter there.
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Im at work and have the volume turned low. I could hear some but not all. I know that visually that was beautiful. Good gracious man you got nothing to worry about. You may very well put pressure on them! 
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I think it looks great, you obviously practice alot and love magic. As for the shuffling/cutting---i would ease up on that, that might help with what Rudy suggested.

That's just a personal thing. Looks great just as it is.
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Good idea Michael. Maybe less shuffling.
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I did get the feeling I needed to fill in that silence with more patter.

That might be a bad idea. Don't in words just because you want to get rid of something else. Words are among your most important tools. Words can start wars, free felons and destroy reputations. Words can also heal, make people laugh, free innocent people and bring about peace.


In magic, words can set moods, misdirect, cause laughter and tell story among other things.

Words are a powerful tool that should NOT be used as filler. The words you use in magic should be chosen because they add to the effect, not because you want to get rid of the silence.

P.S. I think the word "Patter" trivializes the importance of words/scripts. Although I'm not sure I have a better option.

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Makes sense. Gotcha. I'll just cut back on the shuffling & cutting.
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Makes sense. Gotcha. I'll just cut back on the shuffling & cutting. Thanks.

Strangely enough, that was a suggestion in my full critique: extraneous shuffling and cutting increases the silence WITHOUT strengthening the conviction point. Would you prefer private or public critique?

P.S. To those wondering, I am not offering a critique where it isn't wanted. I asked the Gentleman if he wanted critiques and warned him I'd be brutal.

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Very nice routine, and I think just the right length.  The only thing I'd note is that it sounded like you were reading the script, so didn't sound as conversational as I would have liked.  Perhaps you're still memorizing the script so just a note that slowing down, and more highs and lows in your voice would make it feel more human.  But very nice card handling and a good routine, especially with the addition recommended above (that you won't tell either).

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Strangely enough, that was a suggestion in my full critique: extraneous shuffling and cutting increases the silence WITHOUT strengthening the conviction point. Would you prefer private or public critique?

P.S. To those wondering, I am not offering a critique where it isn't wanted. I asked the Gentleman if he wanted critiques and warned him I'd be brutal.


However you want Steven. Your guy's input has been very good.
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Very nice routine, and I think just the right length.  The only thing I'd note is that it sounded like you were reading the script, so didn't sound as conversational as I would have liked.  Perhaps you're still memorizing the script so just a note that slowing down, and more highs and lows in your voice would make it feel more human.  But very nice card handling and a good routine, especially with the addition recommended above (that you won't tell either).

Eric



Thanks GreenKnight.
I recorded it last night & I was struggling with the patter.
After watching my recording over & over a few times today...I sat down on the table and performed this routine once more. My words flowed much nicer. It's engraved in my head now thanks to reviewing it. 😃 Amazing.
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First, a word: I am 100% brutal with my critiques. Not mean, brutal. If I see even a minuscule flaw I'll point it out. Youell's Rule #37 States:
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You cannot achieve perfection. But the only way to produce excellence is by pursuing perfection.

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Please tell me what I did wrong or can improve on. I don't care what I did right, I want to know what I did wrong.

Regarding the silence issue: Most of the silence comes when you're shuffling and cutting. Reducing those actions while still achieving the conviction points would give you less silence.

You've got a bit of hesitation on the Riffle St**ks and I think you're using too big of an in**g on the overhand shuffles. I would also give a tip on the Overhand Shuffle, but I can't here. I'll PM it to you. Strange thing about False Overhand Shuffle Technique: it's one of those techniques that will fool you into believing that because you can do a jog shuffle, you've mastered it. There are all sorts of fine details than can be tweaked.

DO NOT point out that this you're using a regulation deck with all the backs the same. Instead, tell how JOHN SCARNE always used a regulation deck-- I think that will be enough to build the conviction point. Any absolute statement you make is open to be challenged. And... what if it never occurred to them that it would be ANYTHING OTHER than a regulation deck? The second you use the line that you used, you've probably created doubt in their mind. Describing how John Scarne always used a regular deck should make the same point and take the heat off you. The audience will assume that if John Scarne used a Regulation Deck, then you do as well. Additionally, showing the edges of the deck during these lines-- can I ask why you did that? Very few audience members would even know to consider edge work.

I don't think the script is right, but I believe you could turn this into a Masterpiece with the right script. And I mean a Ricky Jay kinda masterpiece. And I'll put my money where my mouth is:  I'll make the offer to write a script for this. No hurt feelings if you turn me down.

Finally, I would suggest you don't do this routine at the Club Meeting. They won't appreciate the true excellence of the work and I don't think the story is quite right yet. If you like, I can offer suggestions. I just think this is valuable enough to save until it's ready.

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Good points. Sure. Write up a script however you like.
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I have very little experience and i was burning those hands..I thought it was very nice and smooth .. of course in life everything can be improved upon..But I really liked that..you will blow them away especially if they are not card guys.
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Thanks kkaiser343.
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As this was a (nicely done) demonstration of skill rather than a magic effect, I don't have any problem with the script.  Also, although I would agree generally that the technique can always be further honed, I don't think there's a problem with this handling at all, especially if performing for laymen.  But, I do certainly agree that the edges should not be shown under any circumstance.  It detracts from the flow, and it's just not necessary.  Kind of like the over-proving that really seems rampant today - even in a lot of marketed effects.  Ditto, also, Steven's comments on saying things that plant a mental challenge in the audience's mind.

Overall, I thought this showed a high level of dedication to getting it right, through what must be significant study and practice hours, given your short time in the art.  

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Thank you Amazer.
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