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Anybody else pre order the new Roy Walton book from Davenport's Magic?
Check it out:
"Included in ‘The Complete Walton Volume 3’ are the original descriptions for Roy Walton’s famous effects ‘Cardwarp’ and ‘Cascade’.

The format of the book is designed to compliment the 2012 re-releases of Volumes 1 and 2, and is printed on responsibly sourced paper by artisan printers in London. Illustrated by Thomas Cameron. Hard backed, 257 pages.

The Complete Walton Volume 3 is now available for pre-order via the Davenports Magic web site, by phone, or in person in our London shop. We expect a likely print date to be during April 2016.

For those that pre-order the book during March, we are offering this volume at a reduced cost of £34 (normally £39), as well as including a set of the playing cards required for 'Cascade', described in the book."

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Darn.

I have to choose between this or In Order to Amaze by Pit Hartling. Eeny Meeny Miny Mo...




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Oh my- guess I'll be saving up for Pits book now..
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Wow - another Walton book. I still don't have the first two yet. So much great magic to absorb, only one life during which to absorb it.
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Do you have link to Roy Walton's book?
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http://www.davenportsmagic.co.uk/acatalog/info-4634.html
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http://www.davenportsmagic.co.uk/acatalog/info-4634.html


Thank you Slowdini
Just pre-order, I only got Roy Walton Vol.1
I also order 2nd volume at the same time

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A new Walton book? Now THAT is an 'event'. [smile]
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A new Walton book? Now THAT is an 'event'. [smile]


Welcome back, Paul. You've been missed [wave]

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He's been hiding here, among other places.

http://www.fyldemystics.co.uk/8_2016.html
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Welcome back, Paul. You've been missed [wave]


I'm actually still away, just a flying visit, will post more when I'm back on U.S. soil.
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The first two are great. Can't see why this would be any different. 
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This is on my list of things to do next week. I have books 1 and 2, and can't wait for #3. But, yes, do need to find the $$$.
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Just ordered Volume 3.  I loved the other two volumes.  Can't wait to get this one!
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I have The Complete Roy Walton 1 & 2 so I expect this book to be good as well. Add another one to my list of needed books... 
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Slowly going through the Complete Walton Vol 3. Some great and simple effects in there. Half Pass Ace is a highlight for me, as I saw someone in the Magic Castle do it for me and it looked phenomenal in their hands.
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Funny you mention Half Pass Ace. I spent most of yesterday practicing that very trick. It led me to some interesting research on the spread half pass. That's one of the benefits, and one of the things I enjoy most about having such a big library.

All in all, I am truly enjoying the book, so far.
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Funny you mention Half Pass Ace. I spent most of yesterday practicing that very trick. It led me to some interesting research on the spread half pass. That's one of the benefits, and one of the things I enjoy most about having such a big library.

All in all, I am truly enjoying the book, so far.


Half Pass Ace is quite a difficult trick to do well, but having seen it done flawlessly it does give me motivation to continue practicing it.
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Half Pass Ace is quite a difficult trick to do well, but having seen it done flawlessly it does give me motivation to continue practicing it.


I did Half Pass Aces at a trade show last week in London, adding an element to relate it back to my client's products.  Okay #1:  it rocks.

Okay #2:  buy the book...it's that joyous. And if you need any further incentives, just know that the last effect written up in the book is a little something called "Card Warp."  You may have heard of it.

BTW, the first effect in the book is a total throwaway, but you *will* get jaws to drop with it.
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I purchased this volume only because I have the other two. I bought those based on recommendations by so many others. If I can be honest, so far I have only made it through volume 1 and there is hardly anything there that I like or will ever use. My overall impression was that Roy took many plots and overcomplicated them with unnecessarily sleights when there were more direct methods for the same effects in existence. An example of what I am talking about is it seemed to me as if well over half the effects require a pass or half pass, and many of those require several different types of passes within the same effect. I came away feeling like volume 1 should have been a book about tricks with the pass. I don't say this because I can't perform a pass. I say it because it seems representative of an approach to card magic that turned me off. Overall, I felt the magic just seemed convoluted and not very inspired. I will hold out judgement for volumes 2 and 3 since I haven't read them. I feel a little insecure stating my opinion about these books since I have never heard anyone not rave about them, but when I put volume 1 up against CUCM (or really any Lorayne book, to be honest) there is simply no comparison in my mind.

Having said that, it wouldn't be fair to say I would use NONE of the effects in volume 1. I would just need to completely rework the methodology (i.e. Smiling Mule) to suit ME. There were only a few effects I liked enough to do this with, however. Most of those seemed to be toward the end of the book. Hopefully this means volumes 2 and 3 will get better for me.
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I don't know anything about this particular volume. However, I do own the previous works by Roy and I found them to be pretty good. I do remember years and years ago he told me that people didn't buy his books because they were under the wrong impression that the techniques therein would be too difficult for them based on his reputation. He was right. The contents did not seem to be overly requiring of great technical ability.

I do remember being converted to the use of the second deal as there were quite a few tricks in there requiring it. Up to that  point I had thought the second deal was impractical as there were so few tricks around which used it. Roy showed me in his book that there were more than I thought there was. I particularly liked the Cannibal Cards one which I have seen Roy do in person.

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MARK LEWIS WROTE: "I particularly liked the Cannibal Cards one which I have seen Roy do in person."

Yes, I think it is one of the more entertaining card tricks out there.  Lin Searles is credited with creating the trick. I am not specifically familiar with Roy Walton's version.

One of the nice features of the routine is that it really animates the classic collector's effect, giving it an interesting and amusing plot, and providing rhyme and reason for the effect, other than just the self-apparent fact that, voila, three selections have appeared in between four kings.  Not only are there a series of magical looking vanishes, but when the cannibals' bellies are "cut open" at the end (at least in the version I am familiar with), inside are found the missionaries (or whomever) they devoured.

Actually sounds kind of sadistic, doesn't it?
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MARK LEWIS WROTE: "I particularly liked the Cannibal Cards one which I have seen Roy do in person."

Yes, I think it is one of the more entertaining card tricks out there.  Lin Searles is credited with creating the trick. I am not specifically familiar with Roy Walton's version.

One of the nice features of the routine is that it really animates the classic collector's effect, giving it an interesting and amusing plot, and providing rhyme and reason for the effect, other than just the self-apparent fact that, voila, three selections have appeared in between four kings.  Not only are there a series of magical looking vanishes, but when the cannibals' bellies are "cut open" at the end (at least in the version I am familiar with), inside are found the missionaries (or whomever) they devoured.

Actually sounds kind of sadistic, doesn't it?

 

Uh, oh. I think we are talking about two different tricks. I could swear Roy's version was called Cannibal Cards but perhaps I got confused. You show four jacks (I think) which represent four missionaries. Then you show two black aces which represent two cannibals. Of course I could have got things the wrong way round and the missionaries are the aces and the Jacks are the cannibals. Anyway, the missionaries get eaten by the cannibals one at a time and then you say the whole thing is not a true story and bring back the missionaries. The second deal is used throughout several times. 

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Uh, oh. I think we are talking about two different tricks. I could swear Roy's version was called Cannibal Cards but perhaps I got confused. You show four jacks (I think) which represent four missionaries. Then you show two black aces which represent two cannibals. Of course I could have got things the wrong way round and the missionaries are the aces and the Jacks are the cannibals. Anyway, the missionaries get eaten by the cannibals one at a time and then you say the whole thing is not a true story and bring back the missionaries. The second deal is used throughout several times. 



Mark, generally speaking, we are talking about the same trick, although I have seen a multitude of variations.  Most use the 4 Kings as the Cannibals; some use the 4 Jacks as the Cannibals. Three indifferent cards (they don't give a damn) are generally used to portray the Missionaries. Yes, the Missionaries do indeed get eaten by the Cannibals, one at a time (the initial vanishes), and at the end of the routine, the 3 indifferent cards are found to be between the Kings or Jacks, or whatever the case may be, ala the typical collectors effect.  

Also, the Cannibals, not having been satisfied just to eat the missionaries, they then turn on and gobble up one another until they too have vanished.  They are then reproduced face up at the denouement when the deck is spread, with each (face down) Missionary found to be in between 2 Kings. 

I could be mistaken, but I believe that in the Searles routine (i.e. the original) and/or in the Michael Ammar version, the patter at the very end is that the missionaries are found inside the bellies of the cannibals - that patter accompanying the effect of seeing each of the 3 Indifferent cards interspersed in between 2 Kings.  (Perhaps that was inspired by the Biblical story of Jonah and the Whale.)  Actually, come to think of it, I believe that Michael states at the inception of his routine that the cannibals' favorite food are "Pygmies" (as opposed to missionaries), and I quite honestly do not really prefer that particular line.  

Again, I have not read or seen Roy's version.
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