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Corro

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Hello, I'm new to magic. I've always been a fan of magic and finally decided to learn. I'm in my early 40's so I've gotten a late start but with each trick I learn I become more obsessed with learning more. I am eager to be able to perform magic for strangers; so far I've only done some for my kids and wife. Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated.
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Welcome to the Magician's Forum, Corro! I'm glad that you found us.

There are many knowledgeable and friendly magicians here to help you.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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Thank you. I look forward to learning from you all.
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Welcome.

What kind of magic are you performing now? What kind do you want to learn in the future? What kind interests you?
If you know the answers, please share.
If you don't know the answers because you're new and don't know what's out there, that's fine too.

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I'm mostly doing card magic but do some levitation and, couple of rope tricks and I've learned a few mentalism as well. I recently purchased Svengali deck and am currently working on a routine using it. I'm on the search for some WOW!! tricks.
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I'm mostly doing card magic but do some levitation and, couple of rope tricks and I've learned a few mentalism as well. I recently purchased Svengali deck and am currently working on a routine using it. I'm on the search for some WOW!! tricks.


Hi Corro,

Do you have the ability to do a video call via Skype?

I can show you a couple of things to get you started.

I'd also highly recommend that you purchase Harry Lorayne's "Close Up Card Magic" ebook from his website.  www.harryloraynemagic.com

So mush material that is sure to WOW the people that you eventually perform for.

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Welcome Corro! As you learn and grow in the craft, don't forget to put in the necessary practice before attempting to perform. When it is new, there is an urge to learn something quickly and rush out to show it. I urge restraint. Otherwise, good luck and don't be shy about asking for feedback.
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I just picked up the e-book you recommend. I'm not currently able to Skype...internet can't hang on my phone.
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I've been practicing daily, all day long (I've been home sick for some time). So far I've only performed tricks for my kids and wife but I'm looking forward to doing some for others. I definitely want to make sure I've got everything perfect so I'm practicing on a couple of short routines. I wish I had started earlier in life but I am enjoying the learning process. As I said earlier; each time I learn a new trick it only feeds the fire of my obsession.
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I just picked up the e-book you recommend. I'm not currently able to Skype...internet can't hang on my phone.


Well, enjoy the book, Corro. I truly believe that it's one of the best books on card magic that you can get!

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I've been practicing daily, all day long (I've been home sick for some time). So far I've only performed tricks for my kids and wife but I'm looking forward to doing some for others. I definitely want to make sure I've got everything perfect so I'm practicing on a couple of short routines. I wish I had started earlier in life but I am enjoying the learning process. As I said earlier; each time I learn a new trick it only feeds the fire of my obsession.


Well I hope your passion or obsession serves you well.  Nothing is perfect and truly you cannot learn everything about performing in front of your bedroom mirror or in front of a "friendly" audience.  What I'm suggesting is that you at least learn your routines so that you can perform them confidently and without seeming to think about what you are doing.  When you get to the point where you focus more on presentation and less on technique, you are getting there.

Think of it as the "why" instead of the "how". 

Good luck!
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I've been practicing daily, all day long (I've been home sick for some time). So far I've only performed tricks for my kids and wife but I'm looking forward to doing some for others. I definitely want to make sure I've got everything perfect so I'm practicing on a couple of short routines. I wish I had started earlier in life but I am enjoying the learning process. As I said earlier; each time I learn a new trick it only feeds the fire of my obsession.


Great move taking Rudy's suggestion to pick up Close Up Card Magic.  Harry is the consummate teacher and the material is all very practical and useable.  I saw that Rudy very generously offered to help you.  That is a golden opportunity to learn from a very knowledgeable and experienced magician, and a very nice guy as well. 

It sounds like you are on the right track (you mentioned you wanted make sure you've got everything perfect).  I would only add to all the great advice you've already received to stay with the strategy of perfecting a routine before moving on.  There is a gigantic "candy store" of magic out there -particularly card magic - and the temptation is to want to try to learn trick after trick, thereby failing to perfect any.  It is far better to have just a few routines you can perform cleanly and entertainingly than a whole bunch that are sloppy or mediocre...
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Sounds like you are having fun. [smile]   One of my favorites from Close Up Card Magic is Coincidentally Yours. It's fun to practice.
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Thanks for all the replies. I intend to take him up on his offer for video call me but it will have to wait till my phones next billing cycle....they throttle my speeds. I am learning lots of new tricks daily but when I find one I really like I do it over and over and over until I am able to do it without hesitation. I know how to do about 50 so far, but I work on about 10 often. It took me several days of nonstop in the mirror working on the disappearing card before I finally got it. And by non stop I mean from waking till bed. I do want to learn as many as I can but my ultimate goal is to be able to have a few routines down perfectly, not just the tricks but the showmanship involved. I actually feel that is my greatest hurtle, the showmanship.
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The showmanship is everyone's greatest hurdle including people who have been in magic for decades. I congratulate you for realizing the importance of this so early. Most "magicians" go through their entire lives without doing anything about it.
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Thank you. I'm a musician and have done many stage performances so I've had to deal with it before and it's always been a personal challenge for me because music is such an intimate and personal thing. With magic, the audience is expecting to be fooled so perhaps when my skills become more solidified the showmanship will come more naturally. Luckily I'm good with my hands and sleights seem to come somewhat easily to me.
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I will concede that it may come naturally for a few gifted individuals. However, I think they are in the minority. It certainly did not come naturally for me. However, like  yourself I realised very early on that it was an integral part of being a good magician, even an essential part. Come to think of it the most important part of all.  My problem was that I had no idea how to go about it. I agonised over it and studied it and tried to figure out the correct path to achieve it. I had to suffer quite a bit of painful trial and error to get there and it wasn't fun.  I believe I figured it out in the end. 

If magicians would spend less time on fiddling about with introverted yet admittedly fascinating sleights and exciting new tricks and more time figuring out this less fascinating and even more tedious but vastly more beneficial area it would do them a hell of a lot more good that what they are doing now.

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If I'm not learning/practicing a trick I am watching videos of magicians. Not just for ideas but I'm studying the way they perform. I find the best to be very engaging with their audience. They seem to have the ability to "lure" you into their trick. Some do it while never speaking but with their body language. Others use a comedy approach, while others have an air of professionalism and cockiness about them them and talk alot. I'm amazed not only by the tricks themselves but the presentation of the trick.
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