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magicfish

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Nice work!  I used this for by double.  Learned it from Jason England's Double Lift Tutorial.  I have my thumb higher up the pack, but I like how you position yours and it looks more casual and effortless.

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Thanks GreenKnight. I appreciate the feedback.
It's a great sleight from Bro. Hamman. Wonderfully explained and illustrated by Richard Kaufman.
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At first it struck me as a strike, but some subtle differences.
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I am away from home and can’t check my library but I don’t think this is Hamman’s No get ready double. The way the deck is held in LH, the (over)spread, the left thumb push etc. have little resemblance with the technique described in The Secrets of Brother John Hamman; As I seem to recall anyway as I practiced it for quite some time and still use it on occasions.

I am not commenting on the efficiency of the DL demo’ed or the skill of magicfish, just objecting to the technique name.

In any case, I won’t be back to my library before the end of the month.

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I am away from home and can’t check my library but I don’t think this is Hamman’s No get ready double. The way the deck is held in LH, the (over)spread, the left thumb push etc. have little resemblance with the technique described in The Secrets of Brother John Hamman; As I seem to recall anyway as I practiced it for quite some time and still use it on occasions.

I am not commenting on the efficiency of the DL demo’ed or the skill of magicfish, just objecting to the technique name.

In any case, I won’t be back to my library before the end of the month.


Thanks Claudio. I'll be in my library in a few hours.
I'll double check.
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Hi Claudio, I just consulted the text (you had me second guessing myself for a minute) and this is absolutely John Hamman's Instant Turnover Technique from the Secrets of Bro. John Hamman by Richard Kaufman.
The only difference is my left thumb pushes the card(s) over at the halfway point of the left edge. Hamman's thumb, according to Richards illustrations , is a bit closer to the top left hand corner, but still at the left edge.
Apart from that, the rest is all Hamman .
But kudos to you for noticing a slight difference in the grip and thumb position.
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Hi Claudio, I just consulted the text (you had me second guessing myself for a minute) and this is absolutely John Hamman's Instant Turnover Technique from the Secrets of Bro. John Hamman by Richard Kaufman.
The only difference is my left thumb pushes the card(s) over at the halfway point of the left edge. Hamman's thumb, according to Richards illustrations , is a bit closer to the top left hand corner, but still at the left edge.
Apart from that, the rest is all Hamman .
But kudos to you for noticing a slight difference in the grip and thumb position.

OK. I must have modified the technique over the years without realising it. I don't remember the deck being held so loose and so much spead in LH. I don't have my copy of the book at hand but I take your word for it. Thank you for checking it. And you do a good job with your handling.
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The diagram in the book shows mostly a squared deck however it does say to bevel the deck slightly.  I don't feel like that's really one of the main aspects of this move and regardless of how much you bevel the deck the technique is still the same.
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magicfish

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the bevel was exaggerated slightly and and the grip d loose for the video to show Forum members that there is indeed, no get ready.
Deviations from the text were subconsciously demonstrative.
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I've been using a "no get ready' Double Lift for years which is basically from page 69 of The Card Magic of Le Paul.
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Super clean, Magicfish.

Like Claudio, I too thought this was the Instant Double and Triple Turnover Technique from The Secrets of Brother John Hamman

Regardless you're execution is excellent.



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Real good magicfish. I like it more than the one I use.
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Hello guys! I enjoyed both video clips above -- the DL is a dangerous move and you both are VERY convincing -- great work! I've seen other DLs on this forum that were also very good. Magicfish -- I always love your style -- to me a DL has to be "sold" completely (almost with your entire body), and YOU really bring this off regardless of how much or how little cards are beveled. Thanks for posting guys -- johnny
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Looks good!

I started with Marlo's Hit Double Lift. But I like the more casual feel of the Hamman DL. The Scarne above looks very much like Marlo's Hit DL. Are there differences?

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Thanks you guys.

Mike, I think the DL I used is Marlo's. I forgot exactly where I learned it from. I believed they just called it a side-strike double lift. Now that you mention Marlo though, i'm almost positive it's his. Since he created so many moves.

The effect I performed mentions Scarne's name in the title because it's an effect of his & i'm not sure what John Scarne called it. I titled it "From Scarne, with love" as tribute & recognition that the trick is not mine.
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Is there a difference between LePaul's Flip Over DL, Daley's Instantaneous DL and Marlo's Hit DL?  
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magicfish

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Super clean, Magicfish.

Like Claudio, I too thought this was the Instant Double and Triple Turnover Technique from The Secrets of Brother John Hamman

Regardless you're execution is excellent.



Thankyou Sam. This is the Hamman technique from Kaufman's book.
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