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Michaelblue

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Posted Reply with quote  #51 
I used to have a lot of the Nick Trost packet tricks. I have a bad tendency to lose things, though. 
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 Not what your asking but Richard Vollmer's ( I think -so long ago) poor man's monte from Apocalypse. I have used that from the very beginning and still do. Fantastic packet effect. 


Page number?


Try this link:
http://archive.denisbehr.de/show.php?book=186

Doing a search on that page for Vollmer:

Apocalypse Vol. 1-5, Vol. 4, No. 4, Pg. 472


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I used to have a lot of the Nick Trost packet tricks. I have a bad tendency to lose things, though. 


Don't apply for a job in a bank [smile]      Most of them if not all are fully detailed in the Nick Trost's Subtle Card Creations books if you wanted to refresh your memory.

 https://www.magicbookshop.com/p/books/nick-trost-s-subtle-card-creations-volume-3
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   Just to avoid confusion - the Numero Uno discussed in this thread is not MY Numero Uno.
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Cool, Subtle Card Creations. Looks like i should get that one
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Posted Reply with quote  #56 
With all due respect to my buddy Paul, there's only one packet trick I carry with me.  Jim Swain's Capitulating Queens is an absolute killer.  I cannot say enough good things about it.
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With all due respect to my buddy Paul, there's only one packet trick I carry with me.  Jim Swain's Capitulating Queens is an absolute killer.  I cannot say enough good things about it.


It is good, I've used it myself, sure it gets a mention in one of my books, but with all due respect back, [smile]
Montier and Bannon's "B'rainiac" is just as good. 



Regarding  the one packet trick you carry Steve, you DO have more than one don't you? [biggrin]  Below is a link to a Capitulating Queens demonstration for forum members to compare. Maybe it's a draw? [smile] 
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Cool, Subtle Card Creations. Looks like i should get that one


There are five volumes in the series, Michael, the first is out of print, I don't think the fifth has a packet trick chapter.
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Cool, thanks for the info.

John Bannon has another great packet effect from Bullet Party and High Caliber, called Wicked. Regular cards, easy to do, very magical
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A number of years ago R. Paul Wilson put out Gypsy Monte 2003.  It's a much better variation and story line than Color Monte and uses Tarot Cards.  It's no longer available, but it is explained on one of his DVDs.  He did provide Tarot cards
with good graphics for the trick.  No gimmicks  needed.
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Cool, Subtle Card Creations. Looks like i should get that one


There are five volumes in the series, Michael, the first is out of print, I don't think the fifth has a packet trick chapter.


Correct, it doesn’t. The first four books have Packet Trick chapters with a number appropriate to the volume. Not so volume (5).
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A number of years ago R. Paul Wilson put out Gypsy Monte 2003.  It's a much better variation and story line than Color Monte and uses Tarot Cards.  It's no longer available, but it is explained on one of his DVDs.  He did provide Tarot cards
with good graphics for the trick.  No gimmicks  needed.


See post 20 in this very thread [smile].
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Cool, thanks for the info.

John Bannon has another great packet effect from Bullet Party and High Caliber, called Wicked. Regular cards, easy to do, very magical


I played with that but it never became a regular item. Think I used it once in the restaurant for some children that came in regularly. Might take another look at it.
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It might not seem like much when you first go through it, maybe because it seems familiar. But I've had good responses from it, even from children.
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Boomerang by Walt Maddison. Walt used to sell this in the eighties before it appeared in his book "Aces". This trick may be where the "Rising Crime" display move originated, though Walt called it the "Snapper" move. In effect it's similar to Harris's "Reset" but I preferred this.
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Hey Paul,

Went back and re-visited #20.  I had seen it, but without Tarot cards the effect and storyline is really lacking.  It can be done with 3 specific cards from any Tarot deck, but
getting good graphics on the cards is important.  It's a great trick, I didn't mind the cards that came with it, but for $15 you can pretty much buy a deck, just that there's only
one of each card needed in a deck.  You could make a second set with different cards, almost as good.

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Walt Maddison: Grossly underrated.  Unfairly overlooked. Also the best man with a short card I've ever seen.
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      I spent some time with Walt years ago in Leeds, England. I was there to do the TV show Just Amazing (like That's Incredible in the U.S.A.). Was told where the magicians "hung out" and was invited to visit. Walt contributed his packet trick, Sting, to APOCALYPSE. His original was with special cards. I changed it to work with any deck, anywhere, and it became the favorite of many, including me.
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I have posted this elsewhere but look at the trick I do at 1.20. It is called the Dutch Looper and is a great packet trick. Oddly enough not all that well known among magicians. It is actually an old fairground trick sold to the public.
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Walt Maddison: Grossly underrated.  Unfairly overlooked. Also the best man with a short card I've ever seen.


Certainly not underrated when he was alive, and he had a brief spell as a dealer in partnership with Andy Stockdale and Derek Newman where they usually attended the major conventions in the U.K. Granted,  not known as well in the USA.

On one time used to session with Walt every Sunday lunchtime, a group would meet up at various pubs. He was for a period in the same magic club as myself where we went out and did close up magic shows. I included a short chapter on Walt in my book "Small But Deadly".
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I have posted this elsewhere but look at the trick I do at 1.20. It is called the Dutch Looper and is a great packet trick. Oddly enough not all that well known among magicians. It is actually an old fairground trick sold to the public.



Thanks for posting that, Mark, in it's entirety. A good pitch lesson.
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Thank  you Paul. The best lesson of course is that this is a line of work that should never be undertaken by sensitive human beings of good conscience. This video will show what I mean. I know it made a few people laugh which wasn't actually the original intention.

 
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 Walt Leeds contributed his packet trick, Sting, to APOCALYPSE. His original was with special cards. I changed it to work with any deck, anywhere, and it became the favorite of many, including me.


In case anyone would like to learn, "The Sting"...it's in the red volume (Vol 10 No 9 Sep 87)
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 Walt Leeds contributed his packet trick, Sting, to APOCALYPSE. His original was with special cards. I changed it to work with any deck, anywhere, and it became the favorite of many, including me.


In case anyone would like to learn, "The Sting"...it's in the red volume (Vol 10 No 9 Sep 87)



Nice to see this, I never read or saw Harry's version. When I used to do Walt's routine from time to time I used cards from the deck also. Walt used duplicate cards in most of his packet effects . I'd have to go back and check Walt's original handling, but I think Harry gets more out of it!
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Anyone remember Quadriplex?
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I also do Color Monte. The first time I saw it in 1986 I loved it and bought two of them. In 10 years both were gone and so I bought 2 more in '97 when I met Mr Emerson at the TAOM Convention in Fort Worth. I even had one of the little instruction "booklets" signed by Mr Emerson. I treasure that signature.

I also bought (in '86) Flipped Out which I also used to perform quite often.

http://www.martinsmagic.com/allmagic/cards/flipped-out-by-emerson-and-west/

There are also quite a lot of packet tricks in Nick Trost's Subtle Card Creations (5 Volumes so far, and good luck locating number 1 which is nowhere to be seen. All the others can be "easily" found. I read somewhere there are plans to have at least 9 volumes published). In one of them there is a hidden treasure, "A packet of backs", which I bought as a separate item and later I found it in one of Trost's "Subtle" books. Here is a video of a performance I found on Youtube...




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Anyone remember Quadriplex?


Did someone say Quadraplex?  Video clip of it here, not the best clip angle wise or to see what's going on but if you just speed through to the end and see the reaction you'll realize the effect is worthwhile. Very commercial use of the Dudney folding procedure. It's fully described in one of the Trost books. Or supplied with cut up jumbo cards from Rachel Colombini. I used normal sized cards quartered, for the video should have used the jumbo. With a small group everyone gets a chance to get involved. [smile]
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Thanks Paul. Quadriplex always got me great reactions.
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Dan and dave's 69 is pretty sweet and fast
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Just thinking Rudy.  Since we're lucky enough to have Paul as an active participant, and the thread is quite popular. How about a special category/header for packet tricks?
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Thanks Paul.
Really enjoyed the videos on packet tricks. Back in the 70's and 80's I bought a lot of packet tricks still have some like Polish Poker, Horse 'n Around and The Gourmet Mouse. If any one like packet trick they should get your books I have them and love them.

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Just thinking Rudy.  Since we're lucky enough to have Paul as an active participant, and the thread is quite popular. How about a special category/header for packet tricks?


Done!! [smile]
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Fortune, by Paul Hallas (there are other routines with the set).
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Wild 3 card Trick. This was a routine that came with Tenyo's "Wild Wallet". I just figured out a handling that didn't require the wallet!  [smile]
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Dan and dave's 69 is pretty sweet and fast



For me, that's such a good example of confusion /= magic.
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The winter 1981 I saw the swedish magician Tim Star do a great packet trick: Ghost Deal by Martin Lewis (A Top Hat Treasures Release), that effect was incredible in my young eyes. I bought Ghost Deal with special cards and instructions and start practising. And, I still do that routine, fun and easy to do.

The routine, which starts out as an unusual poker deal with entertaining patter, is climaxed by a true and surprising magical effect.

The magician displays 25 cards -- they are all worthless, except for the 5 Royal Flush cards in clubs. He mixes the cards up thoroughly, face up and face down, and deals them around the table...the magician ends up with the Royal Flush every single time!

Here it is: http://www.themagicdepot.com/product_info.php?products_id=3168
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The winter 1981 I saw the swedish magician Tim Star do a great packet trick: Ghost Deal by Martin Lewis (A Top Hat Treasures Release), that effect was incredible in my young eyes. I bought Ghost Deal with special cards and instructions and start practising. And, I still do that routine, fun and easy to do.

If you can find this packet trick, get it and start doing it, gets great reactions everytime.

The routine, which starts out as an unusual poker deal with entertaining patter, is climaxed by a true and surprising magical effect.

The magician displays 25 cards -- they are all worthless, except for the 5 Royal Flush cards in clubs. He mixes the cards up thoroughly, face up and face down, and deals them around the table...the magician ends up with the Royal Flush every single time!


This is a good routine, great presentation angle. I have it somewhere, I have used it. I think the routine goes under two different names. 
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This is a clip of me performing Paul Gordon's "Ultimate Sting" (which I think is his best packet effect) at my restaurant gig back in PA. Notice how my hands are being burned throughout, lol.
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Liam Montier and John Bannon's "Montinator 5.0" from the little booklet "Triabolical". First thing I did was make it up with available jumbo cards, I think this could easily replace things like "Sidewalk Shuffle" in a cabaret routine'
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Entertaining my grandson with a little quickie packet trick opener from The Dave Campbell Legacy book [smile]
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The Universal Card routine is a great plot I had a little chapter on in my book "Small But Deadly". This version of mine is fully detailed in that book and also shown and demonstrated on my "Clever Card Magic" DVD for a live adult audience..  Gets great responses but unfortunately this clip is me showing it my hyperactive young nephew. If you have the DVD check it out again there. This performance  here is more casual and low energy. I'm tired and have consumed several glasses of wine [smile]
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Hi Paul, where can we get your "Small But Deadly" book(s)?
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Hi Paul, where can we get your "Small But Deadly" book(s)?


I do have a few copies left of Small But Deadly, however I wouldn't be able to get it out to you for over three weeks as I'm flying out to England tomorrow. If you do a Google search you should be able to find several dealers that stock it Retail price should be $35, sometimes you can find it for less, but don't pay more than $35 (I've seen it sometimes on E-Bay and Amazon for more).

The sequel "Still Small, Still Deadly" is now only available in e-book form from http://www.Lybrary.com
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Ok, Paul, thanks. I found it on Penguin Magic for $26.25.
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This is a good routine, great presentation angle. I have it somewhere, I have used it. I think the routine goes under two different names. 


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This was formerly "Ghost Deal', Martin renamed it, as I  mentioned.

Further info. For those that have the book "The Commercial Magic of J. C. Wagner",  J.C. has a fully scripted variant of his own on Martin's routine on p.121 [smile]
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Presto Printo by Fooler Dooler's is a really odd ball effect that I quite like. I've performed it for many years and it never fails to get solid reactions. Quite a cool take on wild card. 

I've been thoroughly impressed with most of John Bannon's creations. I have to say I like Twisted Sisters a lot. I've also recently picked up Fractalicious which has some really solid material. Royal Scam was the first of his creations I picked up and I'm still using it in strolling situations. Never fails to get people intrigued and smiling. 
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Royal Scam is awesome. 
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There are lots of really good ones, but Color Monte is my favorite.  It is an entertaining and interesting story, with room for improvisation, and really fun to do.  The reactions are almost always great.  And, unlike many packet tricks, there is the advantage that you end completely clean.  Packs small, plays big!  Additionally, I have worked out an easy, handling that requires no table. 
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This is an interesting thread. I remember buying a few packet tricks in the 80s. I favor tricks that use small packets of cards now, like reset, rock n roll aces, jumping gemni. I have the card magic of nick trost which contains many of his packet tricks, t he only one I learned so far was 8 card brainwave.
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Found this old clip of me doing Martin Lewis's "Magician's Poker" aka "Ghost Deal". Obviously, as it's a marketed item in the clip I don't call it by its real name!
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