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Does anyone here do PK Touches ? What kind of reactions do you get with the effect ? And where did you learn to do it ? I don't have Banachek's DVD's anymore..but I do remember the method.

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http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/4491

This looks interesting..^^^^^


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I got an ad from Penguin last week that piqued my interest.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/8161

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Rudy,

Thanks for the link. I am almost tempted to buy this but, I am trying to save my $ to get the Palm Readers Notebook by Ron Martin.

I have sort of a " magic budget " that I am on.

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Rudy,

I have sort of a " magic budget " that I am on.
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Me too...devised and overseen by my wife.
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I bought this and will report my thoughts when I've had time to look at it.

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Logan,

Let me start by thanking you for initiating so many thought provoking threads!

Regarding PK touches, I am intrigued by routines that pack a lot of punch and yet require the performer to pack nothing. While most effects that fit that criteria are born in the mentalist's realm, this PK Touch formula can be tailored to fit a presentation that plays as purely magical. I have studied Banchek's manuscript from the 90s and I've watched video of his performance. It seems to me the routine could best be made performance ready with the help of two other like-minded magicians. They would, of course, need to be in the same room, each taking turns as the performer, spectator #1 and spectator #2. This exercise would allow for a better understanding of timing, sensation and theatricality. I intend to follow through on this rehearsal idea as a pre-requisite to performance. 
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I am a big fan of PK touches and always consider/want to add some form of it to my mentalism show.  The problem that I have with it, is regardless of whose it is, regardless of presentation, method, etc., every single one that I have seen falls flat at the end.  The ending is 100% anti-climatic.  Some have tried to add other effects or twists to try to make an ending, but it still falls flatter, than an ending should.

90% of them end like this, "I didn't touch you, did you see me touch her?"  The ending is audience confirming what happened.  This is the case if you are doing for 2 people or 200.

Sure the sensation for the person experiencing the effect is interesting, but that should only be part of your goal.  The audience has to sense something as well.

The best version(s) of this that I have are Derren's...which probably goes without saying.  That man is pure genius.  If I recall correctly, he had 2 different pieces that involved a PK touches sort of effect.  

I will continue to research and continue to try to brainstorm a good presentation, as I do hope that one day I can add it...because I do love the premise.  But until I get an end that elevates, PK touches is just in the back of my mind and not in my show.
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Good point Craig. It leads me to think that the routine itself could segue into another effect where the spectator's experience (sending and receiving) is a convincer for what comes next. In other words, there is no expectation of applause. Instead there is "proof" or acknowledgement of a strong metaphysical connection between the participants. PK touches is used as an opening phase to strengthen the audience's belief in an upcoming effect.

An example (not necessarily a strong one) would be the two spectators choosing ACAAN or some other remarkable coincidence where the performer simply acts as a guide. The premise of sisters or spouses or best friends having a supernatural connection... or, two strangers who believe they have experienced an unexplainable coincidence in their lifetime.

I'd be interested to hear other member's thoughts on a killer follow up to PKT that would follow this premise... particularly if the effect required no more than a pen and paper or a phone.
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I think we conflate a quiet, internal reaction with "falling flat." PK touches do not end with an epic "TADA!" and that is fine. I think having some effects that end almost hauntingly are more theatrically interesting, in the context of a larger show. If you feel the need to add a punchy finish to the end of a PK touches routine, there are options out there. Banachek has a plot involving a lock and keys (I dare not say more) and Patrick Redford has a nice and logical finish to the routine in "Pentagon," but don't quote me on that. It even has an applause cue! 

When I've done PK touches, I've left the ending with a simple... "That's where this gets a bit odd, because no one touched you." I think it is not only fine, but in some ways better to give the audience a range of experiences throughout a show. 



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