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[Admins - I think this is ok outside of the Session Room, but feel free to move it if not.]

I've started to look into the Anniversary Waltz effect.  This issue comes up in that effect but also in other tricks...

The person picks a card and has to sign it (or write the date on it or their initials) without flashing the back of the card.  How do you keep them from picking up the card in order to sign it?

I have the WGM Anniversary Waltz DVD, and it seems that the way most performers handle this is that they just plop the card on the table and ask the person to sign it.  They don't seem to worry about the person grabbing the card to get a better angle or anything like that.

In the past I've solved this issue but putting the card (face up) on the mat, and putting my hand on the lower half of the card and indicating that I want them to sign on the top margin.

I think this is fine, but if I have two different people select and sign cards (as I would in the AW)  it's going to start to look weird. 

What am I missing here?  


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Why not just keep it on the deck for a signature? That should keep it under your control, and it makes sense, especially if there's no table. I do not perform the effect, but am familiar with it. If you subscribe to Reel Magic Magazine, Doc Eason and Garrett Thomas have a feature called The Anniversary Waltz Project, that might provide some insight.

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I'm pretty sure Doc addresses this issue in the Reel Magic segment. 

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Yeah, I've actually seen that segment before on Reel Magic (and I think he gives the identical technique on the WGM dvd).  I've never been convinced that this would be 100% effective.  Have you tried this idea?
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With various signed card effects where you cannot risk the back being seen I always keep it on the deck and comment, "I'll hold the deck steady while you sign the card".

Sometimes afterwards I might do a double lift to blow on the signature and flash a back but its really not necessary.
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I basically agree with Paul and Anthony. Why take a chance on getting busted. Keep the card on the deck and , as Paul suggested, just say, "I'll hold the deck...."

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Thanks Mike and everyone else who answered.

I noticed that Garrett Thomas (on the WGM dvd) not only holds the deck but says something like, "Sign the card... but I don't want the other volunteer to see your card."  That way he has an excuse to control the exact placement/orientation of the  card.

I can use that line on both spectators.  (Funnily enough, for the 2nd spectator, he lets the person hold the deck himself but then uses Doc Eason's idea to discourage the person from fussing with it too much.  This would make me nervous; I think I'll use the "don't let the other person see" technique both times.)

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I used to do the waltz all the time and actually just made an order to resupply (even splurged a little and ordered the Siamese Waltz to step up my game).  I've always left the card on the bottom of the deck for the spectator to sign.  Never had anyone question why I did it, although I never worked with a table so I guess it is less suspicious during walk around than it would be if we were all seated.
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The important thing is to "act" natural.  Nonchalant.  When most people get heat it is because they look guilty.  Just act matter-of-factly and get on with it.
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