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I have pretty dry hands and while I have been improving my regimen for keeping them more tactile, a strike second still doesn't feel like a good option. I have used the Ron Bauer style TTT double lift and so my touch at pushing off two cards from the front edge of the deck is pretty consistent. I've been playing with Push Off seconds from the Master Grip and wondered if anyone had any tips on improving my take? It feels like it's at the extreme of my finger tips and therefore somewhat contrived and exacting. Thanks in advance for any advice.
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If you'd like to see seconds and bottoms, take a look at this:



Jason Ladanye smooth as silk.

Maybe Mike Powers, or another can add a little Ed Marlo reference. I just remember the "keep the brief as slight as possible." advice.

I am a poor second dealer at best, but it's not a skill that has been high on my list of techniques to master.

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Jim

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Keeping a small brief is less important than good rhythm. I think the tiny brief, as promoted by Nash and others, was an attempt to discourage as much as teach. Also, beware of dealing seconds and bottoms down into a pile. Looks impressive but rarely happens in a real game. Practice the sail, stud deals, etc. dealing around the table is a lot different than rapid-fire seconds onto a pile. Dry thumbs effect most of us. Look for solutions before abandoning the strike.
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I have pretty dry hands and while I have been improving my regimen for keeping them more tactile, a strike second still doesn't feel like a good option. I have used the Ron Bauer style TTT double lift and so my touch at pushing off two cards from the front edge of the deck is pretty consistent. I've been playing with Push Off seconds from the Master Grip and wondered if anyone had any tips on improving my take? It feels like it's at the extreme of my finger tips and therefore somewhat contrived and exacting. Thanks in advance for any advice.


Most humans don't have perfectly moist skin conducive to deals so they use something on their hands. This, while smelling like your Aunt's perfume, does the trick for me. Ed Marlo and Lee Asher recommended it.

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Like I said above, my regime for improving my dry hands is in progress with some of the products cited, but the deal itself is still not an option for me. I find the strike to be ineffective at being deceptive; I have never seen someone perform a strike second deal I didn't see. I have seen Mr Forte, Nash, England and others do it and while they're excellent deals with minute briefs, they remain impressive yet obvious seconds. I'm having some success with the push off; as with all things in this realm, further study of many methods meshed into one often become the 'right' solution.
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Hi BottomDeal,

Check out Jack Carpenter's method of second dealing. It's a strike with a huge brief. His method involves moving the left hand (the one holding the deck) in a bit of an arc. The LH delivers the deck to the right hand. It's all about timing. The brief is huge as in a good half and inch, maybe more. But you can't see it due to the motion of the deck and the tight timing. I'll see if I can find a video.

Simon Lovell has a great two card push off method as did Don England.

Cards with borders make it more difficult to conceal a second deal in any form. 

Steve Draun teaches an interesting method too. I suspect it's on the DVD set, but I'm not sure. 

I too have super dry hands and use Golden Touch and other oils/lotions to help the cause. But I still have trouble. If I use saliva I'll get off a few good seconds, then the thumb is dry again...

The only benefit of dry hands that I'm aware of is a Stuart Gordon double. I think it's easier to use this technique with dry hands. Maybe someone can comment on this. I find that when my thumb has lotion, I have a harder time keeping the double square in the SG double.

Mike
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As Mike Powers said,Jack Carpenter has an extremely deceptive method of second dealing and he teaches it in his dvd Expert Gambling Routines:

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Originally Posted by James Sievert
If you'd like to see seconds and bottoms, take a look at this:



Jason Ladanye smooth as silk.

Maybe Mike Powers, or another can add a little Ed Marlo reference. I just remember the "keep the brief as slight as possible." advice.

I am a poor second dealer at best, but it's not a skill that has been high on my list of techniques to master.

Best,

Jim
that is SOOOOOOO SWEEEEEEET..

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