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I was reading this article on some of the methods used by Shaman's to " demonstrate their abilities ". They also quote Eugene Burger on ways they could have done their rituals with.

http://www.singingtotheplants.com/2007/12/shamanism-and-conjuring/

Lot of food for thought here...

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David Abrams talks about shamanism and his personal experiences in "Spell of the Sensuous." He's a sleight of hand magician/philosopher. The book is more philosophy than anything else. Check out the chapter titled "The Ecology of Magic."

There's also a video on which Max M, Jeff M, Eugene B et al talk about magic's relationship to shamanism. They even show a shaman doing magic to impress the people in his village. He claims to be able to kill a goat by speaking a certain word.Fear is a great way to both control people and to stay safe.

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Fear is a great way to both control people and to stay safe.

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Sadly this is true in all societies, not just those with shamans.
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I think we have to be constantly on guard to fight against this tendency of allowing fear and divisiveness to exert control.

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I personally believe most performers could start a cult with some of the effects we are able to do, we just forget how powerful this stuff really is. Sometimes I think performers forget how powerful magic can be. A simple retention vanish can make people believe in real magic.  

I've often found that shamanism is a fantastic premise for some of my... stranger pieces of mentalism. It makes for a really intriguing piece of theater. I make sure that they realize that I don't have real powers and  I just have a flair for the dramatic. 

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http://blog.mcbridemagic.com/magic-medicine-for-the-mind/

I came across a short article about shamanism that you might like to read about.

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There are many great books to read on the topic.  The origins of all magic began in the work of the indigenous healers.  

Eugene Burger along with others investigated this in great depth. The McBride Magic & Mystery School run a class titled 'Magic & Medicine' which you can attend if you so desire.

A lot of shaman (a Siberian term) were women.

If you are interested in finding out more check out the following books:

The Spirit of Shamanism by Roger Walsh
Shamans, Healers & Medicine Men by Holger Kalweit
The Death and Resurrection Show by Rogan Taylor
The Way of the Actor by Brian Bates
The Spell of the Sensuous by David Abram
The Wayfinders by Wade Davis

Read a few of these titles and you'll have plenty to consider when it comes to Shamanism and conjuring.
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David Abrams talks about shamanism and his personal experiences in "Spell of the Sensuous." He's a sleight of hand magician/philosopher. The book is more philosophy than anything else. Check out the chapter titled "The Ecology of Magic."

There's also a video on which Max M, Jeff M, Eugene B et al talk about magic's relationship to shamanism. They even show a shaman doing magic to impress the people in his village. He claims to be able to kill a goat by speaking a certain word.Fear is a great way to both control people and to stay safe.

Mike 


It helps to enforce your claim if you  have a feinting goat, which if spooked in anyway they simply crash to the ground as if they dropped dead, and stay that way until the threat is over. 

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There is always a difficulty when observing other cultures. How do you remove your own cultural-conditioning and understand their world without your own viewpoints unduly influencing you?
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There is always a difficulty when observing other cultures. How do you remove your own cultural-conditioning and understand their world without your own viewpoints unduly influencing you?

We can't.
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What makes you so certain Blathermist?

What makes you so certain that I'm so certain?
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I think we have to be constantly on guard to fight against this tendency of allowing fear and divisiveness to exert control.


You mean like 9/11 forward? Sigh.

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This is the power of magic and mentalism - as magicians we have the ability to create moments of joy and wonder.

An amazing gift to share with our audiences and the wider world.
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