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Shin Lim wins AGT. Deservedly so too. His work is artistic and magical. But to me, the most ENTERTAINING effect he perfomed was the one shown on the finale show ... Paul Wilson’s “Con Cam Coincidentia”. And, ironically, it is sleight free!

Kudos to Paul!
Congrats to Shin!!

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I am so glad he one. I thought a singer was going to win. Great for magic!
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Congrats to Shin! It is a great trick.  I think it also shows how Youtube can help inspire the new generation of magicians.  Shin has said it before that if it wasn't for Youtube (and learning the Slip Force from his brother) he would not be doing magic.  
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Good for him! It was indeed a hearty performance... At least if this one is the winning act.

And here's the trick Mike mentioned. And I agree; this was far more entertaining than the one linked above. Just goes to show what is often written on this forum: it's not the trick, it's the performer. Great job!

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Sadly... I may now have to retire this one from my sets!! AGT gets very good ratings and the surprise factor is now gone.
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Wow! It's a great trick, but I'm surprised that he didn't go for the usual super-visual effect. This bodes well for the Tamariz style i.e. not at all visual, just totally impossible. It's also nearly self-working. Great to see a magician win AGT again!!

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Well done Shin Lim!  And well-deserved, too.  His engaging personality shone through, and all his acts on AGT were first class.


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Not a Shin Lim fan at all, some personal reasons, and some other "professional" reasons, and some technical reasons all combined together 
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Good for him! It was indeed a hearty performance... At least if this one is the winning act.

And here's the trick Mike mentioned. And I agree; this was far more entertaining than the one linked above. Just goes to show what is often written on this forum: it's not the trick, it's the performer. Great job!

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As soon as he riffled the cards toward Akbar, I was thinking...  "he's not going to do a p**k.  Yup...  he did".
Very nice routine though.

And with a slight change in handling and phrasing this could be done with 5 people and reveal the true best hand in poker, the Royal Flush instead of 4 of a kind, if one of the cards was in the flush sequence, and you had enough people around.  Or doesn't even have to be a Royal Flush, just a Straight Flush.

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To AV's point, a good magician does not have to be a good juggler (even though, if you read Jim Steinmeyer's new book on the history of magic, you'll note in the ancient past there was little distinction!) Shin Lim is both. His sleight of hand is impeccable and very difficult (watch his Penguin lecture and jut TRY to do some of those moves!)

But magic is about (quoting Darwin Ortiz) creating the illusion of the impossible. And it doesn't have to be done with all difficult sleight of hand.

Creating sleight-lite magic that creates that illusion AND does so in an entertaining manner is a very difficult. Harry wrote in one of the Jawdroppers books that taking some of his favorite routines and making them easier to perform because his fingers are not as nimble as they were, in some ways made the effects better [because the performance itself needed to sharpened]. (By the way, Harry, awesome job on that! You really achieved your goal and then some!!)

Shin slightly adapted a Paul Wilson effect (from his super DVD release Killers) and sold it with as much charm as he could muster.

Anthony, I LOVE your idea of adding a fifth person and having the reveal end up as a royal flush! That assumes, of course, the theme of the effect is playing hands of poker (like Shin did). I perform the effect as a demonstration of leadership skills (often at corporate events). I let the person who picks the card be the "leader" and the rest follow his/her lead and actions. In the end, I say, "are you a good leader? Do you even listen to yourself? What was the card you selected before we even started?" After the reveal, "But are you a great leader? Did everyone else follow your lead?"  And then the reveal of the other three cards.

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But wait... He goes on Ellen after his win and performs the same damn trick?!

He had nothing else in his arsenal? And the hostesses seem amazed, so did they even see the show? Or was it taped prior to the win and Shin Lim was anointed winner before the final show aired? (I don't watch the show, but was under the impression that some of the episodes, including the finale, were live. I could be wrong.) Or perhaps Ellen is psychic?! She knew and booked him ahead of the finale, swearing him to secrecy. Deep State stuff, I'm telling you!

Check out the comments section for a second-by-second description of how the trick worked. Sheesh.

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Mike, a correction: It was Tom who posted the Royal Flush idea.

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Disheartening to see a few folks with obvious magic knowledge exposing such a superb routine. Just to get a mindless thumbs up from strangers. Idiots.
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Sorry Tom... no snub intended.
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Sorry Tom... no snub intended.


No worries.  I'm just glad I can contribute, and people like my ideas.  I love brainstorming.
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But wait... He goes on Ellen after his win and performs the same damn trick?!

He had nothing else in his arsenal? And the hostesses seem amazed, so did they even see the show? Or was it taped prior to the win and Shin Lim was anointed winner before the final show aired? (I don't watch the show, but was under the impression that some of the episodes, including the finale, were live. I could be wrong.) Or perhaps Ellen is psychic?! She knew and booked him ahead of the finale, swearing him to secrecy. Deep State stuff, I'm telling you!

Check out the comments section for a second-by-second description of how the trick worked. Sheesh.

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I was surprised by this too. I think he went on Ellen before the finale. Still not sure why he would do the same thing.
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Interesting; I'm curious to know more. Personally I haven't formed an opinion on Shin Lim either way. Feel free to PM if you'd rather not share on the forums. No worries if you'd rather not share with me either. 

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Congratulations Shin Lim!

The way Shin Lim combines music and magic and turns it into theatre is masterful.

He's a master of BEAUTIFUL magic, a wonderful ambassador of the art of magic, and a worthy winner!


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Hi Fortunado, 

I think this is one of those times we need to stop looking at a magic performance through a magician's lens. This is essentially a self working trick, but with the correct presentation it blows people away. I have been performing it for YEARS as a CLOSER. Many times, I tie it into corporate work particularly if there have been discussions about organizational effectiveness or leadership. I use the "leadership" theme to tie it all together designating one spectator as the leader and we will follow what she or he does (regarding shuffling, discards, etc.). Sometimes (depending on my mood) I will even mix it up with some silliness (toss out one card or two cards, then change seats with someone, or make some kind of weird animal noise when throwing out cards ... you get the idea). The spectators completely forget your set up (and sometimes they get so caught up in the leadership and mechanics I foisted upon them... they forget the chosen card!!). 

All told, they love the effect. It is engaging, involving, funny and absolutely amazes your audience. 

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Regarding the same damn thing....

Perhaps Shin Lim was asked on the show to perform his AGT stuff. Act as known as it were.

Donkey’s years ago Steve Tucker was invited to do a spot on the Paul Daniels Magic Show. Daniels specifically asked for a particular routine. Steve obliged.

The routine was a musical sponge ball thing. Steve won first prize in some Saturday Night Competition at the Blackpool Convention. It was novel, magical and very funny. It lost quite a bit in the cold light of the TV studio, but was still effective enough.

Shortly afterward on a visit to the local magic shop I was staggered, though not entirely surprised, to hear a gaggle of magicians rubbishing Steve for not doing something else on the show. Some real Close-Up, whatever that was/is. At least they gave Steve credit for having the ability. The fact that the routine as a stand up effort seemed to pass them by. Oh well. Also the routine was an original piece of work.

The slagging seemed unlikely to abate, so I elbowed my way in and gently enquired if anyone had paused long enough to consider that mebbe, just mebbe, Steve had been invited on to the show because of his competition win. And Steve’s winning act is what Daniels and the producers wanted. I knew this to be the case, but didn’t admit the fact. I compared it to singers and the like being invited on a show because they’ve had a hit record. It’s the hit they want. Not the performer’s favourite ode from the lost bootleg album of Rambling Syd Rumpo, classics though Syd’s songs are.

Anyway, it was clear that no one had, because the slagging did ease, but there were also a few grumbles along the lines of "Well I would have done something else, or refused to do the show." Yep, me too. Fee Paying, Prime time Saturday Night TV.  

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Where can I get that Rambling Syd Rumpo bootleg? 
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Ah me deario, are you sure you’re ready for such gems as"Song Of The Bogle Clencher" and/or "Song Of The Woggler’s Moulie"? [check link]  

 

 

 

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