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Wanted: a small PA system that be used for audiences of 50 - 75 people.  OR, does anyone have any recommendations on a good new system that I could that I could look into?
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The Bose L1 Tower. $1,000 new... used on Ebay in the 700-800 range.

Thirty lbs., easy set up and powerful, clean sound for up to audiences of 100.
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The Fender Passport series is very good. I have the small unit. It's perfect for groups of 100 or even more. I think it's rated 175 Watts. There are three balanced inputs as well as a hookup for external music e.g. iPhone etc. 

Link to Amazon: LINK

It is super portable and has very good sound. 

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Mike knows sound. 
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I agree with Mike.  The Passport series is good.  But be sure to buy a system that’s MORE powerful than you need.  You don’t want to have to crank it at full blast to reach your audience.  That will cause distortion in the speakers.  Rather buy a system that will have power to spare (with the volume set to 1/2 or 3/4), so that the sound quality remains crystal clear.


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We use the Bose L1 Tower. It's been our workhorse for about 10 years. We use it indoors and out. 
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The Bose system is great, but a bit pricey. It's a little less portable than the Passport too. But Bose has great sound indeed. When I was in a rock band we used a Bose as our monitor system and some big JBLs and a sub woofer as our mains. We never tried using the Bose as the only system, though. 

The Passport comes in two sizes. The larger size has lots of juice and is still quite portable. Arthur is certainly correct in pointing out the need to not be underpowered.

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I've rented the Fender Passport system a couple of times and found it to be easily portable, simple to set-up and reassemble, and it provided more than ample sound. If I were in the market to purchase, that's where I would start.

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I vote for the Bose as well. I received one at Christmas and have used it like crazy. It perfectly fills the room with sound without filling the stage with speakers. Once I adjusted my headset, I can now walk in front of the speaker during performance with no feedback at all. I connect my phone to the other channel (with its own volume setting) and we are good to go with no other adjustments needed. And it packs small.

I also have an Amazing Amp (Happee Amp) and used it before getting the Bose. For the size of crowd you are talking about, it works and takes up pretty much no space whatsoever. You can also connect your phone to it via Bluetooth to send your music. It comes with two bodypacks, two lapel mics, two headset mics, and a handheld mic. If you are looking for a good starter system ready to go out of the box, you should look at it. It is a little quirky sometimes to find that sweet spot on sound--and don't ever walk in front of it with your headset or lapel mic on!--but it doesn't break the bank. You'll probably outgrow it at some point, but if you are on a budget it's a consideration. 

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For those slightly bigger shows, consider:

https://clairglobal.com/audio/i-series
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Love that one Bob! The first thing I'd put through the system is a question to the audience - "Do you know what tinnitus is? I do!"

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"What!? I can't hear you--we're too loud!"

Bob Farmer replying to drunken customer who had complained Bob's university bar band was too loud.

Bob promptly nodded, motioned with his fingers in an anti-clockwise circle, like he was going to turn down, and then turned his amp up to 11 and stomped on his Tube Screamer (gain on 10).

Looked at drunk. "How's that?"

Drunk gives Bob the okay sign with thumb and forefinger.
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Been to that exact same place Bob! Amazing synchronicity.

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Directed a storytelling festival over the weekend and rented a Yamaha Stagepas. http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/global/en/products/pasystems/stagepas_400i600i/ With 400 watts of power it was more than sufficient for our needs and provided excellent sound for an audience of 160ish. Easy set up and take down, light, portable, and a breeze to use. Recommended for your consideration. I would certainly give it another go.

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Haha Bob!  When I first joined Frampton’s band in 1980, we used Clair Brothers extensively for our live audience sound system, as well as onstage monitor mixes.  They were great!  

And while we’re still slightly off topic now:  Bob and Mike, I’ve had my share of dealing with idiots at live shows, too … but this story happened in a NYC recording studio.  After recording the musicians and singers for a jingle date, I was just starting the mixing process, when the ad agency producer said, “the tempo is too loud.”  There was a moment’s silence, and then with an unseen wink to my recording engineer, I told him to lower the volume of the tempo.  Without pausing a beat, he feigned turning a knob on the mixing console counter-clockwise (which didn’t change anything).  When we played the track again, as you may have guessed, the ad agency numbskull was more than pleased.


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Arthur, I've worked with Rush since 1982 running the legal department and in that entire time there has never been a complaint about the tempo being too loud. This is because Rush uses a specially-designed "tempo compressor" which kicks in whenever the tempo exceeds 330 bpmdB.

"bpmdB" aka "decibeat" is a measurement of tempo and loudness. Scientists have discovered that exceeding that limit can cause serious brain damage resulting in the listener running out and buying every Kenny G album ever recorded and then--even worse-- listening to them.


Arthur let me be honest. You need this--it has a built-in tempo compressor so there never can be any problem:

http://www.12fret.com/instruments/gibson-es-les-paul-alex-lifeson-artist-proof-2-white/

That's Canadian dollars which given recent events may soon be known as Canadian pesos.


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LOL, Bob!  Unfortunately, I don't have any small change lying around right now ...
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I think I originally asked for input on PA systems back on march 31; thanks for the comments and info; I purchased the Fender Passport with a good bit of reserve power.  I did not buy the base model so I could have adequate reserve power.  Oh yeah I love it; plenty of power and good sound and easy to set up.  Thanks for the comments.  Doug
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Good choice, Doug!  And if you do smaller gigs that don't require the whole system (like daycares or living room birthday parties), you can lighten your load by just taking one speaker.
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Thanks for the one speaker suggestion; I knew I could do that but have not tried it yet so this will just push me to try it out; cause I do small parties and gigs very frequently.  For anybody interested, the whole package was about $1,000 to $1,100 including mics (hand held plus hands free), cables, shipping, more than average power, and more than adequate speakers.
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I think I originally asked for input on PA systems back on march 31; thanks for the comments and info; I purchased the Fender Passport with a good bit of reserve power.  I did not buy the base model so I could have adequate reserve power.  Oh yeah I love it; plenty of power and good sound and easy to set up.  Thanks for the comments.  Doug


Yes and... I figured as much - or at least hoped. Glad to hear you found a system that works for you! I posted about my experience with the Yamaha system only to maintain a thread that might later be searched by others like yourself, seeking recommendations and such.

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I have the small Fender passport, but I really like the features of the Yamaha that Anthony recommended. Right now the Passport seems to be enough. But if I needed more juice, I think I'd consider that Yamaha.

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