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Rick Holcombe

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Hey Guys, 

I came up with this handling for Coins Through Table using a copper, a silver, and a brass coin. I think you'll find it to be really clean and straightforward. 

Please check it out and let me know what you think. 

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Very nice and smooth, but one of the best things of this kind of effect is the "sound". So, if the handling is good, when you were editing the video you had to consider to mix music with the actual sounds.
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Thanks for taking a look.
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Posted Reply with quote  #4 
What do you say when performing? Gary Kurtz would say "These coins will travel from one hand to the other, but this table is going to get in the way."

That's his Relentless routine
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Oh, and your routine looks good
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Thanks for watching.

Probably the wrong routine to do silent I guess....
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Wouldn't take much, just something like, "You ever want to walk thru walls..."
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That was a very artistic looking video.Looks great. I do admit, I know the sound of the coins falling into the glass would be strong.
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Two thumbs up for the whole routine, but especially for the last display.
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Posted Reply with quote  #10 
It looks good Rick, congratulations!
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Posted Reply with quote  #11 
Nice sequence! Congrats!
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Rick Holcombe

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Posted Reply with quote  #12 
Thanks guys for taking a look!
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Posted Reply with quote  #13 
A bit late to the party, Rick, but that was one smooth looking routine! Thanks for sharing your passion with us.
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Very good. My only recommendation is to create some temporal misdirection between false transfer and the coin going through the table. Right now I think going immediately from one to the other creates the possibility that it never went to the other hand in the spectator's mind where it wouldn't normally exist. The coin moves to the other hand, then quickly isn't there. The obvious answer is it was never there to begin with.

Temporal misdirection easily and quickly solves that problem. Enough of a delay (doesn't have to be very long) with something interesting to focus on, and they will forget the coin ever supposedly changed hands.
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Jeremy,
Are you refrencing the first or second coin?
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I watched the video at least 15 times and can honestly say that the transfers all looked very convincing and natural. I am aware of how the routine is accomplished at certain points, but I am refraining from trying to, "figure it out". It's a fun little routine and I like Rick's continued emphasis on sharing coin magic rather than another way to produce 4 aces from a deck that has changed color three times...
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I watched the video at least 15 times and can honestly say that the transfers all looked very convincing and natural.



If you're responding to me, I don't disagree. All the transfers looked great. My only recommendation was about timing.

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Are you refrencing the first or second coin?


I should have been more specific. Definitely not the first coin with the transfer of all three! I don't think that has the same possible issue because you transfer "three" and then some coins are seen immediately after.

After the second transfer, I think a short delay prior to passing through the table would be beneficial.
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Thanks Dan for watching. You're really upping my view count! Ha!

Jeremy, I can see what you mean. People might think it's in my hand that grabs the glass.
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Sometimes the best feedback you can get form a routine is from an audience that consists of laymen. I once went to a see a pianist and was blown away at her ability. The friend who took me later informed me of how many mistakes she made throughout the performance. He apologized for taking me to see her on an off night...he, being an accomplished pianist himself, was not listening to her the same way I was. I think this happens when magicians watch other magicians.
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Sometimes the best feedback you can get form a routine is from an audience that consists of laymen. I once went to a see a pianist and was blown away at her ability. The friend who took me later informed me of how many mistakes she made throughout the performance. He apologized for taking me to see her on an off night...he, being an accomplished pianist himself, was not listening to her the same way I was. I think this happens when magicians watch other magicians.


Definitely wise words.  I also just like to get different perspectives; maybe someone sees something I didn't think of. Or, maybe someone might suggest a better way for something.
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I really enjoyed this...and extremely smooth.

I used to do something kind of similar with the old stand by "scotch and soda". I would have a duplicate centavos coin stuck to the underside of a small saucer with a bit of wax. I would place a shot glass under the saucer. The gimmicked half and centavos would be placed on top of the saucer laying over each other - then slide the half on top of the centavos coin and "push" through the saucer. A slight sideways move on the saucer causes the waxed coin to release from the bottom...the audible sound of the coin falling into the shot glass makes this work well. At this point, all is examinable. 

I may have dated myself here, but thought it might be an interesting alternative. This was in my close up routine in the 80's.

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Posted Reply with quote  #22 
I might add that the saucer I used had a small lip on the underside that would hide the coin and allow the saucer to be placed on a table without disturbing the coin.
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This, in more detail, was posted on the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum in April of 2006:

 

Perverse Through the Table  

 

Coins through the table is a classic effect but putting coins (and other objects) through a table is a great opportunity to show a “Perverse Magic” effect.

 

Let me give you some examples:

 

1          Coin – only half a coin goes through

 

2          Sugar Cube – Sugar goes through – wrapper doesn’t

 

3          Dollar Bill – Only picture of “head” goes through – not rest of bill

 

4          Bent Coin

 

The “bent coin” (a coin folded into a “C”) is written up in “Modern Coin Magic” (Bobo) on page 186 a great “prop” for Perverse Magic.

 

The bent quarter can be used to create a Perverse coin through the table.

 

(I bend the quarter by holding each side with a pair of pliers and – bend it.)

 

The routine I do is to first pass a quarter through the table and explain I was lucky that it went so easily. That doesn’t always happen. Well, since I’m feeling lucky I’ll just do it again. This time I have trouble and I give up when I show the quarter is bent.
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Posted Reply with quote  #24 
Nicely done. Oops, Very nicely done.

I agree with the other comments about the sound. People love to hear money clink-clank or jingle jangle.
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Posted Reply with quote  #25 
Nice ideas from Gerald and Ejay K

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Rick Holcombe

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Posted Reply with quote  #26 
Thank you guys for checkin it out.

And Mike, it was cool to finally meet you in person at TRICS.
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Posted Reply with quote  #27 
Very nicely done ! The only coin thru the table effect I do is The Silver Passage by Gary Oulette,there is something very "mysterious" about a round mirror on a black close-up pad, when the coins go thru it.

Other than that, I don't know too much about coin magic.
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