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Rudy Tinoco

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Hi Everyone,

I'm trying a new conferencing software that allows more people to participate in our lectures and Saturday Sessions (and is more affordable for me than Business Hangouts.) 

Would you be interested in a last minute session to test it out with me tomorrow afternoon?

If so, here is the link to download the free software:

https://www.eztalks.com/download

Topic: Test Call/Session
Time: 11/10/2018 2pm (Pacific)
Meeting ID: 22650043

Please click https://www.eztalks.com/uc/join_meeting/meeting_id/22650043 to join.

I hope to see you tomorrow!

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I loaded the app on my phone.  I will try to join if I am not home.  If I am home, I will try on my computer.

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I think I’m in. Can’t think of a better way to spend the first hour or two of my birthday
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Hi Rudy,

hope you´re well! I´ll try to be there but not sure.

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I plan to be there.

I loaded the software and immediately got an error. It appears to try to load their Outlook plugin, even though my Outlook is inactive. Didn't seem to be fatal, though. I'm going to load it on my IPad as a backup.

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Software is installed and seems to work. I'll jump in when the time comes. Looks cool!

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Having internet issues, but a tech is due before noon. If the problem is corrected, I will download the software and join. Hope to see you then.

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...Hm, I can´t download the software, I get an error-message:


SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG

Don´t know if I can fix that. I get it with both Firefox and Google Chrome...

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Rudy Tinoco

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Hi Everyone,
 
I just discovered that the call is limited to 40 minutes until I subscribe to their service. I won't commit until I test it out.
Mike said that he's downloaded the software and will be able to join me. I probably just need a couple more folks. The EZ Talks rep said that we can have up to 25 LIVE participants as opposed to Business Hangouts limit of 10. That's a vast improvement but I wonder how that will actually look.

Anyway, just wanted to let you know that this will not be like a usual session, so I understand if you may not want to participate.
 
Happy Saturday!!
 
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...Hm, I can´t download the software, I get an error-message:


SSL_ERROR_RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG

Don´t know if I can fix that. I get it with both Firefox and Google Chrome...

Axel


Sorry Axel. I will forward this information to their technical support team.

I hope that all is well with you!!

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Tech running late. Gr... Intermittent internet, so I won't even try. Best of luck!

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Tech running late. Gr... Intermittent internet, so I won't even try. Best of luck!

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No problem. Thanks Anthony!

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I received some error messages when I tried to install it too. Then I noticed a link on my desktop. I think the trouble may have to do with anti-virus software. If you're having trouble, try turning it off when you attempt to install the software.

There's an iPhone app too. It was easy to install. I don't know if it's available on Android. I would think it would be.

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I received some error messages when I tried to install it too. Then I noticed a link on my desktop. I think the trouble may have to do with anti-virus software. If you're having trouble, try turning it off when you attempt to install the software.

There's an iPhone app too. It was easy to install. I don't know if it's available on Android. I would think it would be.

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Thank Mike. Yes, they said it's available for Android users too.

See you soon!

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Thanks Mike,

I have torn down my (fire)-wall and some other antivirus settings with no success, same error message...

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I don't know what happened, I think the meeting cut for me.
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Me too
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Won’t let me rejoin, says the meeting hasn’t started yet?
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Sorry...

Let's try that again...

Meeting ID: 75479323
Please click https://uc.eztalks.com/join_meeting/meeting_id/75479323 to join. 

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Probably this happened to people outside the USA...
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The second session does not work for me... [bawl]
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I can't join the new meeting??

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Ok...let's try a regular google hangout... I can already tell that the other software has significant draw backs.

https://hangouts.google.com/call/ADoYBp5Wu4ZZCq5iWL41AEEE

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I appreciate all those who tried to test the new software with me. I apologize for the stupid technical difficulties.

I'm going to run another test with YouTube Live streaming that works with Google Hangouts. It's free and seems to have many of the functions that I was paying for with Business Hangouts.

Anyway, thanks again!

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Hi my friends,

sorry, I have no idea why my microphon didn´t work, tried to fix it so I wasn´t as intentive as I would have liked to be...just as an add-on the original Cal-Q-LAtor by Peter Duffie appeared in Harry´s  BOF III, p. 297, haven´t compared both handlings yet. What I would have had to share would have been an amplifiation/addition to what magicfish here had shared, Quick Mate from  ...And Finally. I feel that it screams for a repetition, so I have "worked out" a handling...maybe next time or if you are interested contact me.

I have enyed it to see you all again!

All the best,

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Everyone is this group should be grateful to you, Rudy, for your hard work on this.

Thanks so much for your efforts to really take this Forum to the next level.


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Hear hear!  Rudy puts a lot of time and effort into maintaining and improving TMF.
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Thanks for this morning guys. One problem, I think Chi Han has given Harry the first item for ‘And Finally 2’ !!!!!!!
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Sorry I couldn't make it. I'm back in the 21st century now. Well, I'm close at least!

Thanks, Rudy, and I look forward to being there for the next test.

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I thought it went really well today, Av, until a few vacuum tubes in my iPad blew out 🤨
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What about Skype? I think it supports multiple users. I believe I read that with Win 10 there can be quite a few simultaneous video streams. The problem must be complicated since all the various solutions seem to have problems. 

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I had suggested that as well, Mike. I’ve had up to 15 people tie into Skype for sessions at work
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I thought it went really well today, Av, until a few vacuum tubes in my iPad blew out 🤨


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Thanks for this morning guys. One problem, I think Chi Han has given Harry the first item for ‘And Finally 2’ !!!!!!!


Unfortunately not!  I've been playing with the idea, and unfortunately there are a few problems with it.  I've come up with a couple of solutions, but they require a bit of memorization, something I'm not too pleased with.  Still seeing if I can make the arrangement work so that it's COMPLETELY automatic.
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Never mind, just figured it out.  Been playing with it all day, trying out all kinds of combinations.  Of course it comes to me when I'm lying in bed at 1:30 in the morning like a bolt of lightning when I'm trying to rest up for my first day of work at my first ever real job in a law firm!

Will write it up and send it to Rudy sometimes this evening.  It actually uses a move that I most recently read in one of Harry's Spectator cuts the aces (I'll have to check for the exact name).  I don't think it's Harry's move exactly, but it completely fixes a problem that I was having.
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I must have missed something re: Chi Han's idea? What's up??

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Mike, I think this might have all happened after the session abruptly shut down yesterday

Chi Han, so many of us would love to see what you have come up with! Is there any way to share your idea?
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I must have missed something re: Chi Han's idea? What's up??

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Hi Mike and Mike 😉

I was trying to pull everyone into a Google Hangout to finish our discussion about Harry's Spel(E)Gant. I sent you fellas an invitation, but you must have missed it somehow.

It turned into a mini session (about 30 minutes).

Unfortunately, it wasn't recorded. I figured out how to do that in the future, so Google Hangouts may be the solution. I'll set up another test call.

Thanks again for helping me test out EZ Talks.

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I wonder if it's worth trying out EZTalks again? I'd be happy to pay the $12 for a month's subscription to really test out its features. There's an icon in the upper right corner that toggles between two views (at least for me there was). On view had Rudy large and in the center with small windows along the bottom that scroll to ultimately show everyone. The other view had everyone in equal sized windows on one screen. The images were larger than the ones along the bottom. The image quality was very high (except for Rudy for some reason??) I think we all experienced a very pixelated image on Rudy's feed. Not sure why??

There's an icon that lets you change your resolution as well as the frame rate and the bit rate. 

For some reason, my version of the experience always kept Rudy in the big screen?? Apparently, everyone else experienced a change to the person speaking. This happened to me in Google hangouts too. However, in Google hangouts, I could click on anyone and cause them to appear in the large window. With EZTalks I couldn't do that.

I think that Microsoft owns Skype now. Maybe it's been improved and optimized for Windows machines?? Skype always seems to work well, although I haven't tried it with a group - only with one to one.

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Mike, I think this might have all happened after the session abruptly shut down yesterday

Chi Han, so many of us would love to see what you have come up with! Is there any way to share your idea?


Oh man, I would certainly love to get all your inputs in on it. Problem is, it's just a kicker for a trick of Harry's that's coming out on the HaLo project V3!

I'm pretty happy with my solution. Even more pleased at how much Harry influenced me in that direction considering it's almost all his moves and ideas I'm using. I even figured out an easy way to get into the set up based on some ideas in Jawdroppers V1 and V2!
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