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Steven Youell

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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away there was the first Magic BBS. Not a forum, but a BBS. This was at a time when they only had Dialup Modems and 64bbs was a rockin' speed.

The discussion was about the Classic Force and a very smart man named T.A. Waters put up a post in which he said a) The Classic Force was not 100% reliable and b) anyone who says he can Classic Force several cards in a row would be deluding himself because it would be obvious that the performer was forcing the cards. I think he called it "Bullying" the force. A rather heated discussion ensued and Mr. Waters insisted that one could not Classic Force four Aces in a row without being detected. Rather than argue with Mr. Waters, I told my nephew that we were going to the mall to annoy people with card tricks. His job would be to tape me doing it and I'd pay him by allowing him to interact with the "Babes" that were his age.

This is the demonstration we taped. It's old, grainy and not shot well, but it was enough to end the argument. I've seen several posts regarding the Classic Force and I thought the people here might be interested in seeing this. Please note that the website it mentions at the end is now defunct.

Two final points: Yes, I can do it slowly and I am better at it now.



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That looks great! I sometimes use the behind-the-back-force that I learn from the Harry Lorayne dvd's. And then I learn the regular classic force from Paul Green.

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Nice work.
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Hmmm ... "this video does not exist" ... I know it does because I have seen it, but the link is not working now! [frown]

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I hope Steven doesn't mind, but here is what I think is the video on YouTube. It isn't marked Private, so[smile]....



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That's great, Steven!

Ken, thanks for finding this - I didn't see it the first time it was posted.
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Harry Lorayne

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       You can see me doing the force just a bit differently - and quickly - if you go to http://www.youtube.com/harrylorayneonvideo and find me doing my Ambitious Card Routine - just watch the opening of the routine. This is the way I usually, not always, do the Classic Force.
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Hmmm ... "this video does not exist" ... I know it does because I have seen it, but the link is not working now!

Hey Guys! I switched from YouTube to Vimeo because I think it's a better service. I'm not able to edit the message. ALL of the videos are now available in my section if you'd like to see them. I'll figure out how to fix the original post soon.

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       You can see me doing the force just a bit differently - and quickly - if you go to http://www.youtube.com/harrylorayneonvideo and find me doing my Ambitious Card Routine - just watch the opening of the routine. This is the way I usually, not always, do the Classic Force.

I have been put to shame! [eek] 

That was great!

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   Thanks, Steven. (You obviously have no reason to be "put to shame.") Problem with doing the Classic Force behind your back is that it's a difficult thing to teach. I do try, devoting a couple of pages to it - in the Reputation-Makers section of LORAYNE: THE CLASSIC COLLECTION, VOLUME 2.
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