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Does anyone know if there is a version of the TOD which could be done using a borrowed, or regular deck of cards?
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Patrick Redford's Ninja Tossed Out Deck uses a regular deck. Very clever method. I think he gives some thoughts on using a borrowed deck on the DVD. The regular deck can be shuffled a "bit" by the specs with only a small risk that you might miss on one of the specs. 

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Ninja TOD, yes I've come across this one before.

Annemman's 'Par-optic Vision' inspired me to think along different lines and versions could be done with a mem-deck for sure, but I was just curious to know what's out there.
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If you are looking for a close up variation, I highly suggest Ninja TOD by Patrick Redford. Luke Jermay also tipped his work on the Common Card during his penguin live lecture. Also Ross Taylor has a prop-less version in False Messiah that is actually really strong. If you are wanting something for stand up, I suggest just sticking to the original.
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As I tend to work with borrowed decks it is more of a creative thinking exercise.

If you perform the original TOD I would recommend Wayne Dobson's touches on handling the revelations... watching his performance is a valuable lesson in maximising the overall effect.
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I really like Gazzo's TOD. It has an ending that is very strong. Most TODs simply read one mind after another and then have everyone sit down who heard their card. With Gazzo, there's a person left standing as it appears he's done. He looks at her and says, "What's going on." She says you didn't name my card. He says, "Ten of Spade. You can sit down now." It's an excellent ending IMO.

Gazzo also has some work on making it appear that you are looking directly at a particular person when you name a card. It feels like you're naming that guy's card. Most presentations lack that feature.

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Mike,

Does Gazzo's TOD use a gaffed deck? Or, can it be done with a borrowed deck?

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Gazzo also has some work on making it appear that you are looking directly at a particular person when you name a card. It feels like you're naming that guy's card. Most presentations lack that feature.

Mike


John Archer's version also has this feature.

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Gazzo's version cannot be done with a borrowed deck. The deck is heavily gaffed as in most TODs.

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I had a version with a deck that just had a short card in it. Never published the routine so it has no name. The joker is the short. The deck however is NOT tossed out, you walk from person to person. Never liked the idea of throwing the deck out. Maybe it should be called the "Untossed Deck' :0

It goes like this, deck taken from box as you ask if there is a card player present. Hand the deck to this person to shuffle, put the card case in your pocket. Have the person cut the deck a couple of times. Take the deck back and in recapping the deck has been fairly mixed and cut, cut the short to the top by way of example. glimpse the bottom card then cut the deck placing it about a third of the way down the deck (above the short card).

 You explain you are going to run through the cards and have people stop you and remember cards. Approach three different people in different parts of the audience and do exactly the same thing :- you riffle up the cards asking them to say stop and time it so you stop at the short card, they each see the card behind it you glimpsed. Have them remember the card. Shuffle the cards after the third person and cut the joker to the top. Palm the joker and ditch it in your pocket as you remove the card case. Ask where the card player is again, hand him the deck to keep as a souvenir.  Do the usual reveal.

Feel free to play with it, just don't claim it.


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That's great Paul - thanks for sharing!
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Yes, indeed. Thanks for sharing!
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I had a version with a deck that just had a short card in it. Never published the routine so it has no name. The joker is the short. The deck however is NOT tossed out, you walk from person to person. Never liked the idea of throwing the deck out. Maybe it should be called the "Untossed Deck' :0

It goes like this, deck taken from box as you ask if there is a card player present. Hand the deck to this person to shuffle, put the card case in your pocket. Have the person cut the deck a couple of times. Take the deck back and in recapping the deck has been fairly mixed and cut, cut the short to the top by way of example. glimpse the bottom card then cut the deck placing it about a third of the way down the deck (above the short card).

 You explain you are going to run through the cards and have people stop you and remember cards. Approach three different people in different parts of the audience and do exactly the same thing :- you riffle up the cards asking them to say stop and time it so you stop at the short card, they each see the card behind it you glimpsed. Have them remember the card. Shuffle the cards after the third person and cut the joker to the top. Palm the joker and ditch it in your pocket as you remove the card case. Ask where the card player is again, hand him the deck to keep as a souvenir.  Do the usual reveal.

Feel free to play with it, just don't claim it.




Just to clarify- when you do the reveal you name the card above the short that you peaked and 2 indifferent cards?
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Just to clarify- when you do the reveal you name the card above the short that you peaked and 2 indifferent cards?


Yes.
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I had a version with a deck that just had a short card in it. Never published the routine so it has no name. The joker is the short. The deck however is NOT tossed out, you walk from person to person. Never liked the idea of throwing the deck out. Maybe it should be called the "Untossed Deck'.


Howsabout "The Passed Out Deck"?
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