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Mats Kjellstrom

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Check this out:

https://www.lybrary.com/6-special-stebbins-stacks-in-60-startling-seconds-p-815342.html



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Hi Mats,

Have you used it? Is it really a killer? Is it easy to use? Tell us, tell us?

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"No memory work. No math work."
Call me a skeptic on this one.
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I'm guessing it will be interesting, I bought Dark Horizons (non card item) by The Unknown Mentalist and thought it was a great presentational theme.
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Okay, I took a chance on this.

It's a bit confusing because it teaches you a number of stacks all at once based on some formulas.  
So much for "No Memory and No Math."

It gives you the principles of all the stacks and how they relate. If you know one stack, it mirrors another stack so if you know one, you know the other one because it's a direct variation.

I only want to know one.

There is a variation that makes the stack not alternate red/black. That's good.
There's a process to know certain cards in the stack that require you to backtrack to a different group of cards, define that one and you have the correlating card that you originally wanted. So there's no way to get directly to certain cards without going to a different bank of cards first.

MATH IS INVOLVED. MEMORY IS INVOLVED.

At least, this is what I garnered from the directions last night. Let me tell you, my head was swimming trying to wrap my head around what I thought was going to be an easy learn. 

I find Geoff William's work on the Aronson Stack so much easier in retrospect, I think I'm going to go back to that and learn the Aronson.

I say save your money unless you already have it and can make better sense of it than me.
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Thanks for the heads up, EvilDan.
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I've been using the Aronson stack since the 90s, before the big wave hit.  After purchasing ARONSON APPROACH when it came out, I've gotten every book since.  AMONG THE DISCARDS is in ART DECKO, for those interested - not a mem deck trick, but really clever.

I suggest seeing the Tamariz MNEMONICA videos, as well.  The final DVD on the set has all the subtleties and controls he uses with his pack.
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I use Tamariz's one. And what I'm looking for is for books with subtleties and handling of the stack. False shuffles, false cuts, etc... Lenart Green has that, Tamariz has that, etc... One of the best things I learnt from Tamariz's book was the half mnemonica... mind blowing to me. It was one of those AHA moments. I know it may be fun to come up with a different stack (either a memorized one or one based on formulas) but there are so many there, that I don't think it makes a difference. You can pick any and make it work for you if you learn how to handle it properly. BTW... I use the SiStebbins too, and no one has ever noticed the +3 pattern or the color pattern. Of course, I don't say "see a totally shuffled deck of cards" because that would make spectators question it. 
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