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Let's talk about impactful coin effects that are accessible to the average magi without years of heavy practice and self-denial. 

I like Gregory Wilson's A Questionable Trick, from his DVD On The Spot. A nice, easy, Cop/Sil effect using pennies and dimes.

The Fading Coin, which I learned from one of Eugene Burger's books or DVDs, is great. Uses a Quarter, Nickel, and Dime - at least here in America - and can be a mind blower. The trick is not Eugene's. I forget the creator, but it was originally published in Genii. (Will try to look it up later for completeness.)

David Parr's Proof Positive is another great effect using a single coin. Table or other surface required, but a nice little trick that looks like a miracle some 30% or so of the time.

I also perform a Cop/Sil effect from Kaufman's Coin Magic. Uses a gimmick, but the sleights are not too demanding once understood. I usually follow-up with Expansion of Texture. Nice effect on its own, but going for the silk or bandana helps to ditch the gimmick!

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Yes.. those are all great effects, Anthony! The Burger effect was in the all Japan issue of Genii sometime in 2000. It is a terrific effect. You should also check out Kainoa Harbottle's "Inferential" (first published in his column in Genii a few years back and later as a DVD/Download. You'll need a C/S coin, a few British pennies and a few US halves. Gio Livera's "The Pennies" based on Jim Steinmeyer's "Bermuda Triangle" (from "Impuzzabilities" and based on a very old principal taught to Steinmeyer by Doug Henning) is a really entertaining piece of magic, but you need lots of table space! "The sheep, the shepherd and the thieves" is an old, sleight free effect found in Bobo and Hugard books. I first learned it in a Michael Ammar video (Easy to Master Coin Magic), then saw a great variation in one of the NY Coin Symposium DVDs.

Finally, I had a take on a Dave Forrest trick called "Spot Change" in the July 2017 issue of Linking Ring. And also my "Coin-seyan Economics" which appeared in my "Five Roads to Vegas" book. That one merges "MiraSkill" with another Steinmeyer coin trick. 


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Mike,

I was hoping you would see this and mention your Coin-seyan Economics. As I wrote to tell you recently, I am a fan of the trick. I failed to mention it only because I am still in the "beta testing" phase; trying it out on friends and family while working out the required scripting to keep it humming along. A really wonderful trick with a triple climax and lots of spectator involvement. Any of you who haven't yet checked out Mike's ebooks, do yourself a favor, they are filled with great material. 

I will pull out my Impuzzabilities books and check out Bermuda Triangle. Rings a bell, but not so loud that I can identify it. Will also check our Kainoa's Inferential.

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Thanks for the plug, man!
(I'm shameless in putting it in the post in the first place, but I spent a loooonnngggg time searching for sleight-free, or sleight-lite coin tricks I could write up for the monthly column. Many that I found were betcha-type things or very easy moves as opposed to something that could be wrapped into a presentational effect. "The sheep...etc." is a wonderful routine, but I tried to figure out how to modernize it a bit. I'm still thinking! Plus, it doesn't have an impactful, magical ending. When I read that Annemann originally published Stewart James' "Miraskill" as an effect using Hershey Kisses (!!!  actually the card version we know and love is found first in The Jinx and the candy version a page or two later) the coin idea burst into my head.)

Whatever ... we all stand on the shoulders of giants ...

Thanks again for your kind words, Mr. Vinson.
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Gadabout coins. You can play around with it and make it like you want still using the same principal. All the real work is just in the last bit and most should be able to get that down.
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See:

https://www.lybrary.com/mojo-boogie-boxes-p-922434.html

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http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/5468

This routine has no sleight of hand and was designed for people who don't do coin magic.
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Stupid me.... HOW could I forget this effect! I love it, Bob, and perform it frequently!
Folks .. it's absolutely worth it... just be sure you have the correct Okito / Boston box

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Check out Gary Jones' Metal Sheep from the Automata DVD.


I really enjoy performing this and it isn't that difficult to do.
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David Acer's Spare Change is fun.
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Check out Gary Jones' Metal Sheep from the Automata DVD.


I really enjoy performing this and it isn't that difficult to do.


That looks like a fun effect. A close cousin of the Thieves and Sheep effect mentioned above, but, very different method if I am right, and I think I am. This may bear some resemblance to the routine Mike mentioned earlier by Kainoa Harbottle, but I haven't yet looked it up.

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David Acer's Spare Change is fun.


Yes, it is. I always had a difficult time keeping up with the gimmick though! So small and easy to lose track of. Even so, yes, it is a fun routine.

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Gadabout coins. You can play around with it and make it like you want still using the same principal. All the real work is just in the last bit and most should be able to get that down.


Went back and looked this up in Bobo. Yeah, that last bit might be tricky, but I agree that it seems accessible with some practice. I just may start playing with this one... as if I am not already working on enough!

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This routine has no sleight of hand and was designed for people who don't do coin magic.


Pretty cool, Bob! A bit 'spensive to obtain, but certainly a wonderful, entertaining routine.

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Check out Ron Bauer's booklet, "Gadabout Coins Revisited." He uses a Milt Kort move that's really cool.

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These used to be my go-to table hopping tricks;

Flying Eagles (with Michael Close's Swindle Count from Too Ahead). See also Eddie Fechter.

Daryl's Cross of India.

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Check out Ron Bauer's booklet, "Gadabout Coins Revisited." He uses a Milt Kort move that's really cool. Mike


Is this the one? Pretty cool.

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The only two coin tricks that I do are "coin under watch" routing that I learned it from an Oz Pearlman download. And...a coin through shirt effect that uses Mark Mason's Double Deception. It always gets incredible reactions and is very easy to do.


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I believe Double Deception is from Bob Swadling sold by Mark Mason. Bob invented the flipper coin. Double Deception is incredibly strong.

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Anthony - I think the link is this:

Gadabout Coins Revisited

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The Milt Kort move is the vanishing move at the end. Nice!

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PDQ Coins Across by Paul Harris is my go to trick. It’s in his Supermagic book.
Upsdaisy by Bob Hummer in Professional Magic Made Easy, Bruce Elliott.
Presto Chango by Thomas Bearden in MCM, page 245.

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Anthony - I think the link is this:

Gadabout Coins Revisited

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Thanks! I swear that link was working when I checked it...

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Roth's Fugitive Coin is a good one and I agree with Mbreggar's choice of Inferential.  Everything is justified in Inferential, a cool trick.
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Michael Ammar’s 41 cent trick is a good one with a great story.
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I looked up Kainoa's Inferential Wild Coin. It is in the March 2016 issue of Genii, and it is obvious why Mike and Tom recommend it. Based on an interesting Curtis Kam idea. I printed the pages and am going to through the routine later this evening.

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Curtis Kam’s trick is Inferential C/S Transposition on page 753, with an update on page 1160, of Apocalypse. I love this trick as it makes use of a simple gimmick in the most minimal manner possible, yet produces a nice effect.
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Michael Ammar’s 41 cent trick is a good one with a great story.


Just looked it up - It's nice. A storytelling trick, which I love, and quite easy to perform. Getting a set of the old coins would really make this one special. Especially for that nickel joke! Thanks for sharing that one!

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Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. I think we are building quite a nice treasure chest of accessible coin tricks that future forum members can reference and use. I know I have discovered a couple of interest. (Yes, that was on purpose. [biggrin])

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My favorite “easy-to-do” coin effect is Paul Harris’ variation of Al Schneider’s Matrix, entitled Giant Killer Coin.  Just uses a French Drop and a false transfer (and only two playing cards), but it looks incredible and gets fantastic reactions.


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Some of my favourite, simple coin magic is by Gerald Deutsch and can be found in his new book, Perverse Magic.
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Roth's Fugitive Coin is a good one and I agree with Mbreggar's choice of Inferential.  Everything is justified in Inferential, a cool trick.

Fugitive Coin is awesome. Do you do it Tom?
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I looked up Kainoa's Inferential Wild Coin. It is in the March 2016 issue of Genii, and it is obvious why Mike and Tom recommend it. Based on an interesting Curtis Kam idea. I printed the pages and am going to through the routine later this evening.


Spent some time last evening with Inferential Wild Coin. This is one of those routines I wish I'd seen performed before knowing the mechanics. I suspect that the effect of the changes on the spectator are both surprising and magical. Hell, the changes even cause my eyebrows to raise a bit! Thanks to Tom and Mike for bringing it to my attention.

I am wondering about the idea of using the spectator's cupped hands as a receptacle instead of an opaque cup. Not so much the use of the hand itself as the logistics of efficiently inserting the coins and affecting the change of the fourth coin. Any thoughts on that from those of you who use the routine?

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My favorite “easy-to-do” coin effect is Paul Harris’ variation of Al Schneider’s Matrix, entitled Giant Killer Coin.  Just uses a French Drop and a false transfer (and only two playing cards), but it looks incredible and gets fantastic reactions.



I remember that one... vaguely. From Super Magic, I think. And didn't Paul eventually use it as part of a longer routine with PDQ Coins Across and another effect I can't recall the name of? IIRC the final load was covered nicely and was indeed a "big" surprise.

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I'm a huge fan of Reed McClintock's "Men Without Hats" (from Knucklebuster's 4, I think). It looks nearly identical John Ramsay's "Three Coins in the Hat," but you don't have to finger palm bajillions of coins. Hardest move is a clickpass, and it's a fabulous routine with a solid premise.

 

Edited to correct Ramsay's trick title and the palm used.

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At the beta testing phase with Inferential Wild Coin, and I gotta tell you, the reactions are way out of proportion to the work involved! I believe Bannon would say this one has a low Pain/Glory ratio. Using the spectator's hands as a receptacle for the coins worried me a bit at first, but after four real-world performances there have been no problems.

I don't have access to Curtis Kam's original Inferential routine from Apocalypse, but have found enough info online to figure it out. What a cool idea! 

Thanks for the suggestion!

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In a late reply to magicfish, yes Roth's Fugitive Coin is a great effect and easy.
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Got around to looking up Fugitive Coins last night. It certainly is an accessible and amazing trick, if you have the right coins. I rummaged through a couple of drawers and found a Mexican 50 peso coin that seems to be the right size. A bit thick, but that shouldn't matter. 

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I use a Canadian silver dollar for Fugitive Coin... the first few times I was sure they'd know.  But, not many are familiar with half dollars and it works. I looked all over for the coin David recommended, but couldn't find it.
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Philippine peso works perfectly for Roth's Fugitive Coin. Another great effect that uses no gaffs and minimal, easy sleights: Daryl's Elbow, Knee, and Neck.

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The Mexican 50 peso coin I have is the perfect size, circumference-wise, based on the description in the Kaufman book, but it is slightly thicker than an American half dollar. Like Tom mentions, I have wondered if the difference will be discernible, but I think he's right in pointing out that most people are unfamiliar with the American half, so there's nothing to notice. At least that's what I am going with until I try the routine out later. I want to take a couple of days to get the flow of the routine locked in first.

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The Philippino Peso minted from 1903 to 1912 is 36 mm in diameter and is 90% silver content. US dollar coin is 38 mm and half dollar is 30.6 mm, so the Philippino Peso fits nicely between them.

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Philippine peso works perfectly for Roth's Fugitive Coin. Another great effect that uses no gaffs and minimal, easy sleights: Daryl's Elbow, Knee, and Neck.

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Found a reference to Daryl's Elbow, Knee, and Neck. It doesn't look easily accessible, but I'll take your word for it! I've tagged the book Spectacle, where it was published, and will grab it next time llepub has a sale, which seems to happen several times a year.

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Just for the record - "Inferential Wild Coin" is by Miguel Angel Gea. It appeared in Kainoa's column in Genii.

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Just for the record - "Inferential Wild Coin" is by Miguel Angel Gea. It appeared in Kainoa's column in Genii.

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Right you are, sir! Thanks for properly crediting the effect. Probably should've done that myself... The routine is based around a brilliant Curtis Kam subtlety originally published in Apocalypse.

I must say that Inferential Wild Coin is quickly becoming a favorite. So much fun to perform. Glad I started this thread!

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Anthony, you can purchase Elbow, Knee, and Neck directly from Daryl's website:
http://www.daryl.net/product_detail.php?cat_id=10&id=658
It's only $2.95.
You can also get his "Mysterious Cross of India" there for the same price.

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True. But I have so much that I am currently working on that I'll either wait for Spectacle to go on sale, or if enough time passes and I'm ready for another challenge, I'll grab the manuscript from Daryl's site. I already have his MCI routine in one of his books - forget which. Thanks for the info, though!

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