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Wayne T

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I was catching up on some Penn and Teller Fool Us episodes and saw this entertaining lady magician(ne?) Alexandra Duvivier (daughter of French magician Dominque Duvivier) performing this interesting Triumph type effect developed by her father.



On various other magic forums there was speculation about a deck switch or gaff bag etc. however her father also demonstrates the same trick without the use of the bag as cover.



As discussed here in another thread I don't think Penn or Teller quizzed her as much as other magi's in that they didn't examine the bag or cards but declared themselves fooled.

Anyway I just wanted to share what seems like an entertaining trick, especially when done without the bag but Alexandra's performance and presentation were very good.

**Note I posted this in the open forum NOT do discuss the method of this trick but to generate some comments on Alexandra's performance or more comments on  P&T Fool Us.**

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The trick went on sale to the public shortly after the episode aired. Clever marketing or expeditious exploitation? Who knows. Either way, I thought her performance was excellent. She was likeable and professional, and the trick was fun. Personally I liked the use of the bag. It added some theater and mystery to the overall effect. I was aware of Alexandra only peripherally after she and her dad were featured in a recent issue of Genii, but it is evident that she is a serious student of magic. 

As to fooling P&T, even Richard Kaufman over at the Genii Forum admitted to being initially baffled. 

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This fooled the heck out of me. I thought that she must've used the bag to switch in another deck or something. Watching her pops doing everything in the open just smoked me.

What the?

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This fooled the heck out of me. I thought that she must've used the bag to switch in another deck or something. Watching her pops doing everything in the open just smoked me.

What the?

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It is baffling, especially when seeing the 2 presentations.

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The trick went on sale to the public shortly after the episode aired. Clever marketing or expeditious exploitation? Who knows. Either way, I thought her performance was excellent.


I think P & T Fool Us is more about promoting magicians, magic and tries to be entertaining more than actually Fooling P or T and that's not a bad thing. The fooling thing just adds a twist for entertainment value, if they only featured magi's doing tricks without any interaction from P or T I'm not sure it would be as successful but that's just my opinion. As I mentioned above, they certainly did not explore any possible explanations with any vigor, is that just the editing of the show or they were aware the trick was going to be released? Perhaps this warrants a post to alt.conspiracies.com [rofl]

At 50 euro it's too rich for my blood for a single trick but I certainly do enjoy it. I'd like to see more of Alexandra as she certainly comes across as a pro.

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See Jumbo Climax on the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum March 1, 2018.
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See Jumbo Climax on the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum March 1, 2018.


I might be missing something but I am not sure I understand the connection between that effect and the Duvivier effect.

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I might be missing something but I am not sure I understand the connection between that effect and the Duvivier effect.


The name of the topic is not "the Duvivier effect" but "Cards in Bag".
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I might be missing something but I am not sure I understand the connection between that effect and the Duvivier effect.


Connection? Well, it's a card in bag effect, and a pretty good one too. Requires no gimmicks or gaffs; just a jumbo card and some skill. Lots of comedy and fun. I could be wrong, but I think Mr D is offering his effect as an immediately accessible alternative to purchasing the Duvivier effect.  I actually like it - Great thinking!

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The name of the topic is not "the Duvivier effect" but "Cards in Bag".


Ok I did not make that connection, I was thinking of the Duvivier trick as more of a Triumph type effect but I see your point given they can both be done with bags.

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