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Does anybody here follow The Jerx?  Some pretty fantastic content there:

http://www.thejerx.com

Well, he's revealed himself.  I won't spoil it for you, so check out his posts from the last two days:

The Jerx Revealed (May 24)

So Here's Something I Never Thought I'd Need To Say (May 25)



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Saw the first vid a day or two ago. Like countless others I was dubious about the big reveal. But, as some have pondered, what if it's true, and the real irony is that none of us believe it anyway? The second vid was hilarious.

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I've never really followed it but I have stumbled across it. Honestly though I enjoyed reading it I never understood it. Maybe it's just over my head.
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Very funny stuff. His book, The Amateur at the Kitchen Table, is quite wonderful. As is the rest.
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I enjoy his writing, even when I don't agree it gives me something to think about. The videos were really funny. Mark
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I’ve heard of the Jerx mentioned here on the forum before, but I never took time to check it out. I’m gonna take some time later on to look at the site. I love the way Derren thinks about magic.

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It's not Darren, just a joke. 
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It's not Darren, just a joke. 


The man behind the Jerx must have quite the following if someone like Darren is willing to do this type of video for him. Impressive.

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The Jerx is thought-provoking. It has been mentioned here a few times in the past. Derren Brown is an interesting character and has helped alter the perception of the mentalist/magician. As to whether he is behind the Jerx, or not, is of no real importance. The more important point is how useful you find the tips and information shared. This will of course vary from person to person - but getting Derren Brown involved is definitely a great way to promote your blog 😉
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I don't "follow" 'The Jerkx", but I have read several of his posts.  I skim.  I also read many of his previous contributions in his older blog, TMCJ.  I won't put the whole title as it is offensive to some in itself.  If you care enough, it is really easy to find.  Just go to his new blog and read the 'What is This Site?" section and he explains.  You can conjure up some of the old blog on waybackmachine.org if you want to get a glimpse at it.  It isn't all there though.

The use of profanity is polarizing.  Some are offended by all of it and some aren't offended by any of it.  Most fall somewhere in the spectrum.  I think it is a shame to overuse profanity to the point where some won't even bother to look at all because he does have some very interesting things to say.  I find myself agreeing with him often.  I think he goes a little overboard on some things.  

I think there is value in reading what he has to say, but if you don't, you're certainly not going to die.  So take any recommendation with a grain of salt.

What I will say is I don't believe for even a second that he is Derren Brown.  He has gone this long with anonymity and unless someone was going to "out him" I don't know why he'd drop the pretense now.  

For many years magic had no dissenting voices.  Every review you read, and there weren't many to be honest, were either positive or non-judgmental at worst.  You seldom read a review where somebody said "don't buy this junk".

More recently, the internet has created the opportunity for tons and tons of reviewers.  At this point I think the market is saturated.  And there is still a reluctance from many of them to downgrade an effect or a book, etc.  Some only seem to review things they like and while I guess that is OK, it really doesn't help people to identify the bad stuff and they lose an opportunity to help folks save money.

But getting back to where I was going, magic needs people to give a reality-check at times.  All magic can't be good.  Surely there is some magic foisted on the community that is tripe.  Or a rip-off of someone's work.  There is value in having someone with the guts to call out the ill-conceived or poorly-constructed tricks and to point out the re-branded rip-offs.

Even if you don't agree with opinionated bloggers and reviewers, hearing them out has value.  Somebody thinks the way they do.  Perhaps more people than you know.  Knowing their position can help solidify your own too.  If you disagree with them, figure out why and let that inform what you do believe.  I think that's the constructive approach.

There's a popular magic forum that bills itself as magicians helping magicians.  Unfortunately in many instances it fails to live up to the billing.  Attempts to legitimately help are often viewed as attacks and some are merely there to troll and to promote an agenda.  Magic needs both encouragement and critique in order to be truly healthy.  

Andy, like him or not, has a voice in the magic universe.  Ignore him or follow him or maybe just check in from time-to-time like I do.


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The link I somehow found and have subsequently lost made no mention of Brown. It was Mac King.

I haven't seen the Brown references. But I suspect that the bulk of "both" were much the same.


The Derren Brown post is the one immediately following the Mac King one.  You should be able to advance to it if you look at the lower right corner for the arrow.
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On the "So, you're new here" page over at The Jerx, Andy says the following about himself:

Who are you?

Nobody you know.

Oh, cool... so you're like a well known magician but you want to be able to speak your mind without-

No, seriously, I'm nobody you know.

I'm not a professional performer and I write from the perspective of someone who performs primarily in casual situations for non-paying audiences.

I think that pretty much rules out any performing professional, regardless of whether they are named Brown or King.  

It's interesting reading his original `Magic Circle Jerk' blog, with the help of the Internet Archive. His very first post explains part of the rationale for starting out on this venture:

Why This Exists (November 05, 2003)

It's clear that there's no love lost between him and The Magic Cafe's Steve Brooks, as a quick browse of posts like this one indicates:

Permanently Banned--What A Shame (November 13, 2003)

BTW, I do share the concern about the use of profanity.  It's unnecessary, and only serves to turn off some of your audience.

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I'm interested in who Erdnase might be, couldn't care less about Andy.
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As someone on another forum pointed out a while ago, most of what Andy says, has been said previously.
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I can't control what other people say, but I can control what I consume, so while the Jerx has some really good points (I enjoyed his article on will power), I avoid going to his site because of how he chooses to write. He has the right to write the way he does and he should absolutely not be censored for it, but I also can choose not to go read what he said, another reason why the freedom of speech is great!
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Personally . . . I could care-a-less who is is/was!
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As someone on another forum pointed out a while ago, most of what Andy says, has been said previously.


Is there ANYTHING new under the sun?  Or do we just think it is?
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OK, so in an effort to get this back to a discussion of 'The Jerkx', I offer the following.  

http://www.thejerx.com/blog/2020/4/23/i-feel-like-a-proud-papa

This post of his was funny on so many different levels.  Andy takes no prisoners, making fun not only of the product but the company that introduced it.  But if you read it with an open mind, you can't help but agree with a lot of what he says.

So as I said, Andy clearly has a voice in the industry.  I think his voice has value, and I will continue to skim his blog.  I don't read it regularly, just when whimsy strikes.  I skim the topics and if one "hits me" as being interesting, I read it.

I read this one because of all of the back-and-forth about this product on the internet forums.  

This is an example of what I was talking about when I said the industry needs reviewers that can be honest.  While this isn't a review, more of a satire really, it serves a similar function.

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Hi Everyone,

Our team of moderators decided to remove the posts (including my own) on this thread that pertained to the use of expletives. I think that the rightness or wrongness of the matter was taking us down a road that would only serve to create unnecessary tension here.

Many fine points were made but better left for a different forum.

I hope that you understand where we're coming from and that we can continue discussing EndersGame's original post.

Thanks!!

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I took some time to carefully articulate my thoughts on the topic of this thread in a post that was deleted because it acknowledged the existence of (but did not wade much into) what had become the other topic of this thread. Now, I don't have the energy to reconstruct the substance of my post, so I'm afraid the conversation will have to do without me. I'm sure everyone is devastated.
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I enjoy not knowing the true identity of Andy.
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I agree, Alan. Although I loved the idea of it being Derren Brown, a part of me was sad that I now knew Andy's identity. So when I realised it was a hoax I went back to blissful ignorance.

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Posts were removed from this thread because of over the top religious posts. Also removed were two of my posts.

 

Rudy said; “Our team of moderators decided to remove the posts on this thread that pertained to the use of expletives.” My post had nothing to do with expletives.

 

I suspect my posts were removed because I made a joke about a typo one of those moderators made. It’s good to be the king. You get to delete your mistakes and the posts of anyone that mentions them.

He pontificated about his expertise with vocabulary, grammar, rhetoric, and sentence structure. Then he made a funny typo. Hey, it was amusing. It’s like someone bragging about their “speling”.

 

If anyone wants to read the original posts, save this page quick because this post will be gone too.

I’ve always felt it’s a mistake to remove offending posts. You should leave them up and boot the offender. Let bad things they say stand for everyone to see. Mark Lewis makes horrible racist and xenophobic posts. The nasty posts are deleted and he comes off looking like a pretty nice fellow.

 

This is the first time I’ve ever had a post deleted. It wasn’t deserved. I’ve deleted all of my other posts except four that I won’t delete.

 

Oh, well. I’m off to try to make a wooden cigar. Unfortunately John Rogers doesn’t make them anymore. A pity

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I assume by saying "lengthy post" Alan is referring to mine. I assume the mods read it and decided it was OK. Why they didn't remove it is their business. I understand why other posts, including some of mine were deleted.

If my remaining post offends anyone based on content I'm fine with having it removed. I just looked it over again and I feel it is not out of line at all, but I wrote it so I'm not the best judge.

Andy has us all thinking and communicating so that alone has value in my book.

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Posts were removed from this thread because of over the top religious posts. Also removed were two of my posts.

Rudy said; “Our team of moderators decided to remove the posts on this thread that pertained to the use of expletives.” My post had nothing to do with expletives.

I suspect my posts were removed because I made a joke about a typo one of those moderators made. It’s good to be the king. You get to delete your mistakes and the posts of anyone that mentions them.

He pontificated about his expertise with vocabulary, grammar, rhetoric, and sentence structure. Then he made a funny typo. Hey, it was amusing. It’s like someone bragging about their “speling”.

If anyone wants to read the original posts, save this page quick because this post will be gone too.

I’ve always felt it’s a mistake to remove offending posts. You should leave them up and boot the offender. Let bad things they say stand for everyone to see. Mark Lewis makes horrible racist and xenophobic posts. The nasty posts are deleted and he comes off looking like a pretty nice fellow.

This is the first time I’ve ever had a post deleted. It wasn’t deserved. I’ve deleted all of my other posts except four that I won’t delete.

Oh, well. I’m off to try to make a wooden cigar. Unfortunately John Rogers doesn’t make them anymore. A pity

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I will leave this post hear and use it as a oportunity to remind our comunnity that grammer police are not welcome here.

I wish you well PressureFan.

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Rudy, your grate.
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Can we PLEASE just go back to EndersGame original topic? 

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By way of getting this thread back on topic, I found this excellent idea for “Son of Stunner”.

http://www.thejerx.com/blog/2019/8/29/tweak-end-paul-harris-son-of-stunner

I’m becoming a fan of the Jerx.

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The following article on Simon Aronson's 'Shuffle-Board' strikes me as a good example of how people put their own twist on an existing trick:

http://www.thejerx.com/blog/2015/7/12/practical-magic-week-the-most-impressive-least-impressive-prediction
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Hi, guys.

I think this is just a wonderful way of performing during the virus, but just as viable when things go back to 'normal'. Such a great idea.

Thanks

Andrew
http://www.thejerx.com/blog/2020/3/18/magic-in-the-time-of-coronavirus-part-2





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If profanity is the only reason to avoid the Jerx, i think its a small cost in comparison to the ideas in the blog. I think it's one of the best magic blogs online today.

That profanity is nothing compared to Jerry Sadowitz's Crimp magazine, which has some of the best card magic published in its era.  
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Andy addresses the "controversy" created by his "reveal" in his latest post.  As usual, the post is funny and he takes shots at one of his frequent punching bags.  Definitely worth a read if you frequent his site.
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I had a wee look this morning, Ray. I enjoyed it.

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I had a wee look this morning, Ray. I enjoyed it.

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One of the things that many will wonder about is his statement about not wanting his site to grow.

"The site was getting too much traffic. I’ve always wanted a small site with a small audience."

This is certainly counter-intuitive.  Most believe bloggers always want as many followers as possible.  And I'm sure that is mostly the case.  I tend to believe Andy.  He'd rather have a small group of regular followers than a big group of passersby.

To really "get" Andy you have to spend time reading his posts.  Kind of like that TV show you weren't sure about after the first episode but it had you hooked by the third.

If you think you want to begin reading his blog regularly, I suggest going back to the beginning and working your way forward.  Go ahead and read the new stuff, but catch up by reading the old stuff too.
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Andy addresses the "controversy" created by his "reveal" in his latest post.  As usual, the post is funny and he takes shots at one of his frequent punching bags.

So about that 5-year-anniversary post and Andy's frequent punching bags: but what if Andy = Steve Brooks?! [smile]

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So about that 5-year-anniversary post and Andy's frequent punching bags: but what if Andy = Steve Brooks?! [smile]


There would be a certain irony in that.  I have reasons why he couldn't be and I'll keep those to myself.  But I like the way you think!


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If you are of a mind to, check out The Jerkx today.  His latest missive is very good and if you scroll to the bottom there is some great discussion.  The topic about creating a system for capturing ideas piggybacks on a thread we had here on the forum.  He makes some really strong points in favor of documenting your ideas and returning to them.

The other topic which features a promotional video is great also.  I started a new thread featuring the video because it is interesting in its own right.
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