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Bill Guinee

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I could use some advice on the Ascanio Spread. I am working on the Dance of the Cannibals. Unfortunately, sometimes when I do the sleight, a hidden card will slide into view during the spreading. Of course, if this happens, the trick is ruined, and I don't seem to be able to figure out why it is happening some of the time and not other times. Help, please?
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Anthony Vinson

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Bill, you might find a couple of ideas here

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I could use some advice on the Ascanio Spread. I am working on the Dance of the Cannibals. Unfortunately, sometimes when I do the sleight, a hidden card will slide into view during the spreading. Of course, if this happens, the trick is ruined, and I don't seem to be able to figure out why it is happening some of the time and not other times. Help, please?


Bill, the block of cards is held from above in a grip similar to Biddle grip. In that manner it is almost impossible for the cards to spread, unless you want them to. You certainly could position a finger onto the right edge of the packet sort of as a stop. That way they are very unlikely to spread and saparate.

If you can, post a quick video.
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It also helps if the cards are in good condition. Sometimes the same thing happens to me when I am practicing and the cards are bent or dirty/sticky...
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Bill Guinee

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It also helps if the cards are in good condition. Sometimes the same thing happens to me when I am practicing and the cards are bent or dirty/sticky...


Lugimar may be onto something here. I think the problem may be a combination of old (slightly sticky) cards and old (dry and smooth) fingers. I am going to try with a newer deck and some SortQwik (or something similar). Thanks guys for all the good advice. I will get back to you with results.
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How are things going Bill?

I think Luigimar is right on the ball as usual. Newer cards allow for that ‘floaty slow oscillation’ that I think is the hallmark of an Ascanio Spread whilst a just firm enough hold with the right hand should suffice. I recommend watching the man himself Sr Ascanio perform it. There is a video of him on the thread linked to by Anthony above.

PS. Found here
https://www.themagiciansforum.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1305706394&postcount=11&forum=502568

Sr Ascanio holds the cards with long edge nearest his body and the two short edges between his hands as opposed to the orientation I’ve been doing which is that of a usual dealers grip with the short edge nearest my body. I’ll have a play with this. A thing beauty in his hands so light and natural. Not a hint of anything untoward.

In fact this is a superb example of that ‘natural touch’ that separates the greats/masters from the rest.The cards almost float and dance between his fingers, the handling looks but more importantly, feels to the spectator, as light as a feather. Not only is the sleight optically invisible but psychologically unsuspected. How could he be doing anything other than having four cards dance in his hands. That in itself is a beautiful thing.
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Bill, 

If you can afford The Magic Of Ascanio Vol.2, you'll learn all of the subtleties directly from Ascanio himself, as well as other variations.

This book is a wealth of knowledges. I bet you won't regret buying it.

The thread linked by Anthony is really good.

I hope this helps.

Lucas.
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