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Card magic seems to be the main interest for most close-up performers these days.

For those of you who stray from a pasteboard miracle or two during your card program, what effects do you regularly practice/perform?



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I just ordered 8 sponge balls from Penguin and bought a Daryl video. Should be fun.
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Love the Chop Cup. I'm particularly fond of Lonnie Chevrie and Danny Tong's routines. Both developed under fire.

More and more I like rubber bands. The CMH routine is fabulous as originally presented. Joel Rindfleisch has really moved the goal posts.

You can get a lot of magic from a finger ring and velvet cord. Greg Wilson's introduction of the cord is brilliant.

Not a coin fan. I stink with them.

Just some thoughts.

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I just ordered 8 sponge balls from Penguin and bought a Daryl video. Should be fun.


He's got some great stuff. I actually prefer his basic routines. Has there ever been a better routine then Passe Passe Sponges?

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If I'm doing restaurant work it's sponge balls, small chop cup with golf ball loads, rubber bands, ring and shoe lace, CSB routine, and of course a deck of cards. 

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What I did before Zoom:
mentalism (billets especially Tervil, starsigns, anagram work, Swami work, chunneling, imp pad work, Which Hand ..etc)
Loops work (Justin Miller's ring thing)
Bil changes and transpos (Eugene Burger and Danial Garcia currently)

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I do R. Paul Wilson's Cup and Vase
Coin and Card Matrix
Coins Across
A Double coin routine
Professor's Nightmare
Cut and restorned rope (3 versions)
Sponge Balls
Cups and Balls


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My three most requested tricks are sponge balls - CSB - Chop Cup (my glass cup version) no matter how many great card tricks I do.
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When I did strolling or table-to-table, cards were sometimes the least of what I'd do.  Depending on the set-up, anything you can do that "plays a bit bigger" is preferable.  When you do choose card tricks, many of the ones we love just aren't conducive to performing for a large table.  

Some of my regular items were coins, sponge balls, chop cup, small linking rings, lots of stuff with ropes, cut 'n restored, prof's nightmare, etc.  Then there was the ring and string routine.  I also had a sequence I'd do with color changing silk that led into other effects, depending on my mood or what I was into at that moment.  Usually something like a weird load they didn't expect.  I'd also carry the color changing knives with me.   Those are some that jump to mind.

I tried to avoid anything that I couldn't do in about an 8"x8" space because sometimes that's all you got.
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I was thinking about this the other day. If i had to list my favourite 6 things to perform or practice it would be
Linking Rings
Cups and Balls
Ring on stick
Manipulation
Sponge balls
Ring and rope

all these before any card effect

Weird I considered myself a card guy...apparently not.

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I was thinking about this the other day. If i had to list my favourite 6 things to perform or practice it would be
Linking Rings
Cups and Balls
Ring on stick
Manipulation
Sponge balls
Ring and rope

all these before any card effect

Weird I considered myself a card guy...apparently not.

Gareth


Ring on stick is awesome!  I forgot to mention it.
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When strolling, I found that time restrictions meant less than ten minutes at a table, so it was cards all the way. I would "break" bigger tables into sections. It was pointless trying to project to the far side/end, simply because people at the other tables were making too much racket. Not rowdy, but simply doing what diners do.

I've noted before, I think, that when Do my "History Of Mystery" talk, it's always standup, generally parlour size audiences, though sometimes it's as many as 50-100. I use a PA system then.

Trickwise, it's always Cut And Restored Rope, my all-time favourite non-card trick. Also, a book test, Gozinta Boxes, a five minute three ring Linking Rings, a very basic Si Stebbins routine and, sometimes, Invisible Deck.
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My three most requested tricks are sponge balls - CSB - Chop Cup (my glass cup version) no matter how many great card tricks I do.


I would be interested in more info about "glass cup version."
Is this by "Alan Hudson and World Magic Shop"  aka Chop Glass? 
Are there other commercial versions?
Did you create your own? 
Thanks. 
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I would be interested in more info about "glass cup version."
Is this by "Alan Hudson and World Magic Shop"  aka Chop Glass? 
Are there other commercial versions?
Did you create your own? 
Thanks. 


Kathon, I look at that chop glass and I thought it was ironic that they claim metal cups are "suspicious looking" and then they wrap a glass in what looks like a portion of a suit coat sleeve!  Are they kidding?

I realize it is advertising, but metal cups aren't suspicious at all, you can find them in any bathroom supply area of a department store or in the bar ware area.  Many of them look exactly like a magician's chop cup.

To me it would have made a lot more sense to simply wrap the glass with an opaque napkin, either paper or cloth, your choice.  Now we're talking not suspicious.  

Sorry for the rant, but come on folks.  
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It's nice to see, that for the most part, the items listed are classic pieces or plots.


I have some coin work. Part of it is based around a particular grip/concealment. Most of it (as with most of the stuff I do), is just my particular handling or thinking on a classic piece or plot.

Coin wise I do -

Presto Changeo - my handling is done at chest level, and for the most part, the coins are held face to the spectators.

A piece I call "always on the right". This is kind of similar to Presto Changeo, so I will do one or the other, not both in the same performance.

A Changing Coin (Spellbound type effect).

Coins Across - I have a few handlings of this.
I also do a variation of Roths classic version (shelled). I use ideas from Roth and Michael Vincent, with a splash of my own thinking. At it's heart, it's still Roths though.

Copper/Silver Transposition in a spectators hand (well, before this virus anyway). My handling of this great plot was created to solve a part of the usual no gaff versions (and some gaffed versions) that I was never keen on - the business of the magician placing one or two coins in a spectators hand, in that cozy, I'll help you close your hand manner.
I have two handlings which solve this issue - one using a c/s gaff, the other uses no gimmicks.

Three coins through handkerchief - pretty standard stuff (although the first extraction may be original).

Occasionally, The Expansion of Texture.

I only do one or two pieces from the list at a time.


Pen Through Bill/Note - again using some of my own handling and thinking. I use Doug Edwards original Wonder Penetration pen.

Hanky vanish using a TT - I use a note/bill, and present it as an absorption.

Occasionally I do a routine with Zenner Cards.
If I'm doing the Zenner routine, I'll usually do a PK touches thing, with a couple.

Sponge Balls - I got back into these a few years ago. I did them constantly as a teen, then for some reason stopped. I originally ended with ball to cube. Over time I changed the ending to the two in the hand bit, with the complete vanish at the end. The bulk of the routine was straight out of Mark Wilsons.
For the past year or two, I've been working on a new handling using 1 inch balls for the main routine, and ends with a transformation into a larger ball. A small 6 inch wand is also used in this routine.

Crazy Mans Handcuffs - I use Michael Ammars handling from The Magic Of Michael Ammar book (i use different patter though).

Sometimes, if doing the Crazy Man's Handcuffs, I'll also do the broken and restored rubber band. I use Michael Ammars handling, which is based on Harry Loraynes, with a little idea and display of my own thrown in.


I did a knotted silks routine for a while, but haven't done it for a few years now. For the past year or so, I have been working on the Left Handed Hank, and the Handkerchief with Seven Corners, from the Bauer manuscript. By working on, I mean I'm trying to make it into more of a feature piece.


I'm sure I've probably forgotten something, but those are the pieces that come to mind.




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Cards...what are cards ?
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Cards...what are cards ?


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I would be interested in more info about "glass cup version."
Is this by "Alan Hudson and World Magic Shop"  aka Chop Glass? 
Are there other commercial versions?
Did you create your own? 
Thanks. 


This is a long and sorta sad story. I came out with a glass chop cup many years ago with a  juice size glass and a koozie cover. The routine was designed for strolling. The routine starts with the clear glass and later I add the koozie. All of the important action takes place in the spectator's hand. That includes a visible appearance of the ball and both final loads. That makes the routine unique in all of the chop cups I know of. I performed it several years back at Luka's Motor City Close-Up convention and I did a small lecture tour back around 09 and sold a limited number of them. I'm very proud of the routine and it is one of my signature effects. I called it Chop Glass.

As you are aware Alan Hudson came out with his "Chop Glass" a couple of years back. I was (still am) a little upset about it. I have no reason to doubt that he came up with the idea independently but I sure wish he had at least done a Google search on the name and called his something else. Now when you search - his is all over the internet as they had a marketing campaign and it looks like I was the copy.

I do not currently have any of the cups available. My wife makes them by hand and she got tired of it very quickly. However, she told me a few days ago that she wants the final inventory of stuff not being used out of the garage and would consider making what ever she can out of material left. Should that happen I will make an announcement here if the rules permit.

My routine and Hudson's both rely on a cover with the special something in it. There was a routine many years back that did not use a cover but a ring and the hand as shade. (I want to say Devin Knight but I'm probably wrong).  I also remember an "impromptu" version with a newspaper and a glass. I think it was from the Phoenix.

Probably more than you wanted to know.
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Marv - you showed me your Chop Glass way back when. It's a really excellent item. I hope you'll put this item back on the market. I remember when the other version came out. I felt your pain. You were there first.

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Marv - you showed me your Chop Glass way back when. It's a really excellent item. I hope you'll put this item back on the market. I remember when the other version came out. I felt your pain. You were there first.

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Just another example of the cheapening of magic. Oh wait, it is different because it is a goblet. The stem makes it a different trick.
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Thanks Mike and Ray.
I don't have any corner on the Chop Cup - Al Wheatley beat me to it.  (For you younger guys - he was Chop Chop the inventor of the chop cup although it was Don Alan that really made it a staple of close-up magic.)
I just wish  World Magic Shop would have researched the name before using it. Life goes on.
It is still one of my most requested non-card items to keep us on topic.
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This is a long and sorta sad story. I came out with a glass chop cup many years ago with a  juice size glass and a koozie cover. ... I called it Chop Glass.

....  [Wife] told me a few days ago that she wants the final inventory of stuff not being used out of the garage and would consider making what ever she can out of material left. ...

Probably more than you wanted to know.
Cheers

I'm glad to know this and would like to be informed if you make another run of them. THANKS!
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One of my favorite non-card tricks to perform is The Chinese Berry Trick by Andrew Galloway.
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As a "card magician" my favourite non-card magic trick is making myself disappear.

I've always transmit to my people that I'm a "card magician," not a "magician," since as an amateur, my lack of time hardly ever let me to devote my time to other kind of magic but card magic.

Anyway, one of my favourite impromptu, casual and friendly magic trick is "eating olives through the head" by Juan Tamariz in his book "Magia en el Bar" ("Bar Magic"), p. 15:

https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/book/1770

I don't know if there is an English translation of this book.

If anyone is interested in a description of this trick I can show it in the "Session Room."
You can do it two or three times in a row without problems.

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As a "card magician" my favourite non-card magic trick is making myself disappear.

I've always transmit to my people that I'm a "card magician," not a "magician," since as an amateur, my lack of time hardly ever let me to devote my time to other kind of magic but card magic.

Anyway, one of my favourite impromptu, casual and friendly magic trick is "eating olives through the head" by Juan Tamariz in his book "Magia en el Bar" ("Bar Magic"), p. 15:

https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/book/1770

I don't know if there is an English translation of this book.

If anyone is interested in a description of this trick I can show it in the "Session Room."
You can do it two or three times in a row without problems.


Paco, that sounds like a great, impromptu routine.  A bar is a perfect place to do magic.  You have glasses, napkins, olives and other things such as sugar packets with which to amaze.
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