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Haven't done a lot research on this subject. I've seen a few clips of Vernon doing the Linking Ring. Also seen a few routines done by Pop Hadyn.

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Richard Ross routine, it's a poem...
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Haven't done a lot research on this subject. I've seen a few clips of Vernon doing the Linking Ring. Also seen a few routines done by Pop Hadyn.

List your opinions below.

Josh


Josh, as with any effect, there are loads of questions to ask before you can get any useful answers.

Best for whom?  What size rings?  Is this close-up or stand-up?  Do you want a routine that involves spectators?  Do you want a comedy routine or perhaps a silent routine set to music.

Is it going to be an 8 ring routine, or 5, 4 or perhaps only 3?

Personally, I have always done a 3 ring routine.  It is an amalgamation of moves from Ed Marlo (yes, he did more than cards), Roy Mayer (you probably never heard of him, but he was somewhat of a local legend) and some other stuff I added.  Mine is/was generally set to music within my full stage act, but I've done it with patter many times also.

I like the 3 rings because it is easy to follow, contains some elegant links and unlinks and some really cool moments.  I might perform it on a Saturday Session in the future, just to change things up a bit.

So I'd like to hear more of what you think YOUR best routine might look like and then I will have some suggestions. 

One suggestion would be to just develop your own.  Really not that difficult.
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I'd learn Vernon's "Symphony of the Rings" first. It's loaded with great sequences. Even if you ultimately opt for a different routine, the time spent learning the Vernon routine will have been well spent IMO. It's a classic.

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This is what I’ve done for years. Admittedly, there’s a bit more to it; a couple of more proving moves along the way, but nothing overt.

Show three separate rings.
Link two. Unlink.
Crash Link two. Unlink.
Link two again, then create a chain of three by adding the third ring.
Unlink, showing a chain of two. Separate these two.
Finish.
Five minutes.

A bit prosaic to some, I know, but who cares. I like it. And contrary to the bellowings of more than several magicians-who-know-what’s-what-and-what’s-not, lay-folk do like the trick. I wouldn’t do it if they didn’t.

If you like the trick (I do) there’s plenty of time to get clever. Some of the suggestions so far should guide you.

Also you might want to have a look here:

https://www.themagiciansforum.com/post/linking-rings-help-9889099?highlight=linking+rings

I have a set of eight rings. I bought them in a Magic Club Auction before the dawn of time for two pounds. I played around with eight ring routines, Vernon’s “Symphony Of The Rings, but the three ringer does it for me.” Even further back than this I saw Al Koran on TV doing a three ring routine. Brief, to the point, and all you could wish for.

The rings are eight inches diameter. I have a set of pocket-size three inch rings and have used these on occasions when strolling. Useful if the diners are seated at long(ish) benches. Very visual.

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Not everybody is Richard Ross.

I entered a competition at the Oakland Magic Circle here in Cali doing Ross's three ring routine.

I came in sixth out of eight performers. That was a big blow to my ego.

But i added it to my set to do with adult & kid shows and I always got positive comments on it, I did it to music.

Lots of practice needed here.

MP-

I still like the " Crash Link " however.





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Best for whom?  What size rings?  Is this close-up or stand-up?  Do you want a routine that involves spectators?  Do you want a comedy routine or perhaps a silent routine set to music.

Is it going to be an 8 ring routine, or 5, 4 or perhaps only 3?

So I'd like to hear more of what you think YOUR best routine might look like and then I will have some suggestions. 

One suggestion would be to just develop your own.  Really not that difficult.


I would definitely say that it would be close-up magic. I don't think I'd want the really big rings, especially since I would be performing it up close.

I think I would be able to do a comedy routine for sure. Fits my personality. Not sure on the number of rings. Best guess is 3-4.

Also, that's a good suggestion. Maybe I should develop my own.
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I'd learn Vernon's "Symphony of the Rings" first. It's loaded with great sequences. Even if you ultimately opt for a different routine, the time spent learning the Vernon routine will have been well spent IMO. It's a classic.

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I'll check that out for sure.

Thanks Mike.
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Very cool Alan. That's why the trick is over 2000 years old right. It truly is a timeless trick.

Thanks for the link btw.

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For close up I personally like the works of Shoot Ogawa and Messado. I really didnt like the rings at all until I saw them. Now, the rings fascinate me in all forms.
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I'll check it out.
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I would definitely say that it would be close-up magic. I don't think I'd want the really big rings, especially since I would be performing it up close.

I think I would be able to do a comedy routine for sure. Fits my personality. Not sure on the number of rings. Best guess is 3-4.

Also, that's a good suggestion. Maybe I should develop my own.


Pop Hayden's comedy routine is a good one to study.
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Chris Capehart's routine was honed for many years on the streets of New York. I don't think anybody gets more put of the rings. He uses three.


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Pop Hayden's comedy routine is a good one to study.


Yeah, I definitely think he has a great routine. I've seen his on YouTube.

Fantastic.

I'm gonna take that into strong consideration.

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Chris Capehart's routine was honed for many years on the streets of New York. I don't think anybody gets more put of the rings. He uses three.



Yeah. Definitely a good routine.

Simple but effective.

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Here's Shoot's close up routine... 




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