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Just found out that a new David Blaine special will air on April 1st. It's on ABC.

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You'd be a fool for not watching it.
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Hope it's not an April Fool's Day joke!
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Hope it's not an April Fool's Day joke!


My thought exactly as soon as I read the news, and specially the date...

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If it wasn't for the trailer I would think the same thing too.
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April 1st is my wedding anniversary too! No joke!

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Haha!  That's really funny, Mike!
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Happy anniversary, Mike!  Any special reason why you picked that date?
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Thanks guys!

April 1st seemed perfect for us. It's also Dan Garrett's and Jason Alford's (TSD) anniversary as well as a few others whom I've forgotten.

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I’m guessing Blaine’s “Magic Way” is just a little bit different from Tamariz’s???
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It’s scheduled in my area for 10pm. Sounds like the right time slot for a David Blaine special.
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Actually pretty cool! Seeing his daughter was quite endearing 😉
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I just watched it. Good stuff. Lots of mem deck type work. I think he might take advantage of the fact that you don't have to show every version of what you tried to do.

Also, I think the special reminds us of the power of an audience's expectation on their experience of the magic. If "uncle Joe" shows one of Blaine's tricks to some visiting friends, the expectation of his ability is low. This will have a large effect on how his trick is perceived. When you think you're in the presence of a world class magician, the effect of one of the tricks on you is greatly enhanced. 

So when you're doing a show, it's a good idea to write your own introduction heading off something like "Hey everyone listen up. The magician is here. He works at Starbucks and does some magic too. Here he is..." 

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Mike, not sure what you mean by:

“ I think he might take advantage of the fact that you don't have to show every version of what you tried to do.”



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One thing to remember is the audience are celebrities knowing they are being recorded for a special, that will automatically increase the "reactions" not saying they are fake, I have been there and the reactions are real, but with the idea of this being filmed, and it is David that heightens the experience 

also, magic on TV always has this.. sort of.. dual reality aspect to it, with video editing it creates a dual experience form the person watching it live and on TV, not saying the "Tricks" are edited, but some of the process 

and yes, Blaine has mastered the ability to go into anything, due to his performance style, and his "free" presentations there is always a desired outcome, but not always a pre-planned one... if that makes sense 

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Mike - I meant that he can simply not show things that didn't go as hoped. I don't think that all the thought of cards and numbers to stop at could have worked out. I assume that he shot several versions of various things where the outcome wasn't certain and then tossed out the ones that didn't have the desired outcome.


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Got it. And good point.
But sadly, hasn’t that been his history during his ABC specials?
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My favorite part of the show was the portion with his daughter.
The fact that she is well acquainted with Tamariz was incredible:)

The rest of The Magic Way was mostly a highlight reel of things that he’s already done.
Still a delightful distraction from everything that’s going on.

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.... hasn’t that been his history during his ABC specials?


I didn’t watch it.  Never been a big Blaine fan, due to exactly what you’re talking about. 

Lots of clever TV editing, making incredible situations seem possible.  For example, showing him doing a “balancing on one foot” levitation for two young girls, then cutting to him being hoisted way onto the sky by some unseen device, then cutting back to the over-the-top reactions from the girls in the original scene.  Much too fake for my taste!

Although, years ago in Times Square I did walk past him a couple of times when he was trapped in the giant ice cube …. No idea how he did that.


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I kept my yapper shut after the first Blaine special around fellow magicians. I was just getting back into magic after settling down with my first teaching job and a young family. I guess I fit the demographics they were aiming for with the audience (as well as being naïve to what good close-up magic should look like for a TV audience) because I enjoyed his first special...very much!

Most of my co-workers and students enjoyed it as well...the levitation was the hottest topic of conversation. The hot topic at my IBM Ring was how someone with zero personality, a pocket full of gaffed decks and a sucky double lift get a F#$%^&* television special??? They were certain his future was doomed and that this first TV appearance would be his last. I felt that due to their experience that they had a better platform from which to critique Blaine...the rigged levitation, his weird personality (this coming from one of the creepiest dudes I ever encountered in my life), and his poor choice of effects all took center stage during our meetings for several months. Eventually ,"The Masked Magician" aired another special and the conversation no longer focused on Blaine. Finally we could talk for 90 minutes about the Masked Magician and then maybe have someone do a trick or two before we retired for the night.

My thoughts on his editing, pre-arranged set-ups, stooges, and whatever other methods he uses to tarnish how magic should be performed are unimportant. Some claim Copperfield has used "cheating" to pull off some of his stage show effects as well... and don't even mention Cris Angel among some magicians...you could get slapped for just saying his name! Penn and Teller have been accused of turning magic into a guessing game of, "How did he do that?" instead of simply showcasing magicians performing and letting the audience believe that there are no secrets...just pure magic!

It is my hope that somewhere today a magician among us will eventually present magic through the medium of television in such fashion that none of us will be able to find an issue with how the magic is presented. There will be no camera cuts, stooges, pre-arranged set-ups, fake reactions, magic shop props/gaffs, and other methods of cheating. The performer will be charismatic ,witty, and likable to all age groups and have great chops. I think I know just the person...




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I kept my yapper shut after the first Blaine special around fellow magicians. I was just getting back into magic after settling down with my first teaching job and a young family. I guess I fit the demographics they were aiming for with the audience (as well as being naïve to what good close-up magic should look like for a TV audience) because I enjoyed his first special...very much!

Most of my co-workers and students enjoyed it as well...the levitation was the hottest topic of conversation. The hot topic at my IBM Ring was how someone with zero personality, a pocket full of gaffed decks and a sucky double lift get a F#$%^&* television special??? They were certain his future was doomed and that this first TV appearance would be his last. I felt that due to their experience that they had a better platform from which to critique Blaine...the rigged levitation, his weird personality (this coming from one of the creepiest dudes I ever encountered in my life), and his poor choice of effects all took center stage during our meetings for several months. Eventually ,"The Masked Magician" aired another special and the conversation no longer focused on Blaine. Finally we could talk for 90 minutes about the Masked Magician and then maybe have someone do a trick or two before we retired for the night.

My thoughts on his editing, pre-arranged set-ups, stooges, and whatever other methods he uses to tarnish how magic should be performed are unimportant. Some claim Copperfield has used "cheating" to pull off some of his stage show effects as well... and don't even mention Cris Angel among some magicians...you could get slapped for just saying his name! Penn and Teller have been accused of turning magic into a guessing game of, "How did he do that?" instead of simply showcasing magicians performing and letting the audience believe that there are no secrets...just pure magic!

It is my hope that somewhere today a magician among us will eventually present magic through the medium of television in such fashion that none of us will be able to find an issue with how the magic is presented. There will be no camera cuts, stooges, pre-arranged set-ups, fake reactions, magic shop props/gaffs, and other methods of cheating. The performer will be charismatic ,witty, and likable to all age groups and have great chops. I think I know just the person...






you are completely undervaluing Blaine's commitment and talent, and not only Blaine but everyone who works with him behind the scenes 

you are dismissing Blaine's historical knowledge, obsession with Magic, techniques and Methods by saying "tarnish how magic should be performed" just because he doesn't perform the way people think magicians "should" perform in a "purist" way

at the end of the day, his goal is astonishment and the magic, not being a show-off, not being a storyteller who tries to use drawn-out presentations to apologize for magic, he gets to the heart of it, people want to see the magic



I understand I am coming at this from a more biased point of view, and everyone has their own opinion, I am not here to "force" (pun) and opinion on anyone 

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I watched a 45 odd minute youtube version that Richard Kaufman put on facebook.

I was disappointed that it was a lot of footage of old encounters really more of the same we've seen before.

But what he does is genuinely good close up card magic. He jazzes and handles multiple contingencies so well. Yes there are cuts and angles but i don't think there is a disingenuous reaction there. Of course people on TV are possibly gonna react a little more in the hope perhaps of making the final cut.

I can leave the eating glass and the regurgitation, but he does the classics so well. I could watch him do the Monte routine for hours. His added element to that effect I hadn't seen before. The stop trick with Jamie Foxx was a beautiful example of squeezing every ounce of affect from an effect. 

The Jordan routine had me intrigued as MJ stated he didn't mix the cards, despite being asked. I discussed the effect with a magician friend of mine and he gave me his thoughts. They made sense.

Given this thread is on the open section (should this thread be moved??) I won't go any deeper.

I appreciate that the version I've watched might not be the version shown on US TV.

I enjoyed it. David Blaine's first special back in 1997 got me back into magic. I think he's great.
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I do not think of David Blaine as a magician. I think of him as a performance artist whose medium is magic. That takes nothing from him, and in fact, gives him great credit for discovering a medium and outlet that has provided a solid, life-long income without punching a clock. 

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I enjoyed the special a lot. It will help to keep the current public interest in magic alive. Good stuff!

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First off I wanna say that me, nor any of you, are the target audience so nobody but us cares what we think about another magicians TV special.

Having said that, I found it to be relatively boring. I think my biggest issue with a LOT of his specials are "Hey look at me and my celebrity friends". There were also a lot of time jumps in this special. It looked liker stuff that got edited out of his last one or two specials mixed with more current stuff. (His hair changed color a LOT)

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To see David Blaine with his daughter was beautiful. The relationship between them brought tears to my eyes - in the words of Garrett Thomas "Magic is advanced empathy" and what a wonderful way to display such a concept.

David Blaine has intrigued me ever since his first TV special, and like Anthony I would not label him a magician, he is way beyond such a title. His latest show was another eye opener, and I am really enjoying his evolution... there is much to learn by watching David Blaine, however it requires a non-judgemental mindset in order to truly see the beauty of his work.

So many thanks to Mike Powers for drawing my attention to the show, doing so has given me the opportunity to expand my thinking and continue my own evolution in these magical arts.
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To see David Blaine with his daughter was beautiful. The relationship between them brought tears to my eyes - in the words of Garrett Thomas "Magic is advanced empathy" and what a wonderful way to display such a concept.

David Blaine has intrigued me ever since his first TV special, and like Anthony I would not label him a magician, he is way beyond such a title. His latest show was another eye opener, and I am really enjoying his evolution... there is much to learn by watching David Blaine, however it requires a non-judgemental mindset in order to truly see the beauty of his work.

So many thanks to Mike Powers for drawing my attention to the show, doing so has given me the opportunity to expand my thinking and continue my own evolution in these magical arts.


I didn't watch the special, but now I'm going to go see if I can find it.  I'd like to see that interaction with his daughter.

As magicians, I think we sometimes have a tendency to look down on performers that are out of the mainstream.  We have a notion of what we think magicians should look like.
At the same time, it is also true that some magicians get critiqued because they are just like all the rest, nothing unique or original about them.

At he end of the day I suspect that just as there are "horses for courses" there are magicians that appeal to a variety of niches.  Blaine has his followers, his bank account is proof of that.  I guess he's doing something right.
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I am a huge David Blaine fan. It may be a bit embarrassing, but it is what it is. His first Street Magic special gets me every single time, even though I know how (most) of the effects are done now. Despite the "I'm half-stoned an don't really care" attitude, his connection with people is -- or at least, was -- next level during his first few specials.

This one was OK, but to me, it was more about watching David Blaine and his celebrity friends than strangers experiencing sheer astonishment. Honestly, I wasn't particularly impressed by this special. There were some nice effects for sure, and I absolutely agree that his daughter was by far the best part of the special. But I dunno, something was kinda just missing for me on this one.

I far prefer the Netflix series Magic for Humans with Justin Willman when I'm looking to kill some time watching folks perform some silly magic on TV.
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Magic for Humans is really entertaining!

I missed the Blaine special, does anyone have a link for it online?
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I missed the Blaine special, does anyone have a link for it online?


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I think it is fine to discuss a performer and his or her attributes.  We all have tastes of course, that's just natural.  But any time a magician is given an hour on television it is a big deal and should be applauded if for no other reason than it promotes magic in the eyes of the public.  Even if you don't care for him, his magic is appreciated by many and he promotes the art in a positive way.
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I see no beauty in his work at all. My fault? Blaine’s? No. Simply a communication situation. Whatever Blaine says/does doesn’t reach me. That’s all.




Different strokes for different folks. Something about this short video gets me every time. We all know the Two Card Monte, it's as simple and visual as it gets. Yet watching people from all walks of life experiencing the exact same emotions -- true astonishment, bewilderment -- from such a simple yet powerful effect, man, to me it's just beautiful.

I think in Blaine's previous specials he did an awesome job capturing the human element of magic as an artform. For some reason, this special just missed the mark for me a little ... I think it's all the celebrities and the more "contrived" nature of it, I dunno. 
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Thanks so much RayJ! And I agree, it puts magic in a good light as something entertaining, and potentially inspires more young people to get into magic
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Maybe it is just me but David seems to have "softened" his persona a bit.  He used to really play up that mysterious, penetrating stare and such but I saw him on a talk show and he seemed quite normal.  It was refreshing.
We all mature and our personalities change.  Maybe his daughter and her influence is working on him?
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I think my biggest issue with a LOT of his specials are "Hey look at me and my celebrity friends". There were also a lot of time jumps in this special.


One of the problems with TV magic is that we never really know what is real.  To what extent is the "magic" we're seeing just the illusion of an illusion?

I agree with the point about using celebrities as spectators.  It's also an attempt by production staff to add elements of interest beyond just the magic itself.

Even so, it's nice to see magic on TV, and I do think Blaine was successful in providing entertainment for viewers, and getting people interested in magic.  Despite some initial skepticism, I have to admit that I enjoyed watching it - certainly a whole lot more than Criss Angel, for example.



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