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JenniferG

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Anyone know of any affordable cases to hold a boxed deck of cards? Something which doesn't scratch other things.  I have so many different decks which are special and need some sort of way of identifying the deck quickly.  E.g. invisible deck, brainwave deck, mneumonica deck, omni deck, svengali force, svengali color change.. the list goes on and on.   In the past I put letters on the bottom of each box but would rather not write on the boxes in the future.  

What is your solution for this problem?  I have all these red bicycle decks on my desk now and sometimes takes me a while to find out which one has the right cards lol.
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If aesthetics aren't particularly important and this is for your own personal identification/organization, you can't go wrong with clear cassette cases.

If you care about look/feel/presentability, they make "card display cases" which you could stick labels to or something. But it may seem a bit strange to have a standard bicycle deck in a fancy display case 😃

I just have mine organized in an order I remember, but for backup I use a label maker (I did not buy it just for my card addiction, I promise), and peel it off before any performance.
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I wrap each deck in a thin strip of blank paper on which I write the name of each deck.  It's basically a loop around the deck, held together with sticky-tape, and functions like a paper sleeve.

I store them in brick boxes, so each gaff deck is easy to find and identify, and I can easily take off the paper sleeve before using it.

Here's how they look:

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Very nice EndersGame.  Maybe I'll make a box template in desktop publishing app (like Pages on the Mac OS).  Then throw in some art or whatever and print it outon color laser.  I can glue to 110 lb index card stock and cut out and then fold & glue.  Then slide the decks into the custom sleeve.  

Or just do what you do with the paper, so it's less busy body work. I am truly a busy body though haha.. always crafting stuff with paper.  I scrapbook and make homemade greeting cards etc..

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I wonder if any magicians have had custom tailored coats with many pockets to accommodate various decks of cards.
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I wonder if any magicians have had custom tailored coats with many pockets to accommodate various decks of cards.


Custom tailoring is actually fairly common among full-time pros.  Whether it be holdouts, topits, etc., having them fitted and sewn-in professionally is a good way to go.

Garrett Thomas always wears a vest when he performs because it has a number of pockets where he can stash things.  Perhaps not decks of cards, but it allows him to separate coins, rings, etc. so that he always has things at hand and doesn't have to waste time searching, unless he wants to, for misdirection, let's say.

Michael Ammar mentioned in his recent lecture how he constructs a slit in his side coat pocket which allows him to reach into his Topit.  Some also create slits in their outer breast pocket which allows access from the inside.  Lots of stuff you can do to help facilitate your magic through alterations to your wardrobe.
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Hi Jennifer -

I would advise against carrying "many" decks. I imagine that you must be referring to special gaffed decks e.g. Invisible Deck et al. There is so much that can be done with one normal deck. I'd recommend against relying on tricky decks and putting time in on card magic with normal cards. Carrying an Invisible Deck is a pretty good idea though, because it can often be used to bail out when something goes amiss. 

In a formal show, you can build deck switches into your routine. You might want a special deck for a supercharged sequence. But for strolling magic, why not just learn a number of great routines with normal cards. Then there's no need for special clothes with many pockets. Also, you can't get busted with tricky cards which will destroy your reputation. When someone suggests that I'm using tricky cards, I give them the deck when I'm finished. For about $1 I prove that the magic is in my hands, not in the cards.

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Mike, yeah most of the tricks I do use regular deck, with an extra red/blue card sitting in box or somewhere nearby for Chicago Opener.  I also carry duplicate card of same color in the deck at all times for Hand Sandwich and other tricks.

But I do like to take with me a Mneumonica deck for the very powerful AWACAAN routine.  So many other things you can do with the Mneumonica deck as well.  I need to buy Mneumonica book.  I have AWACAAN down really well and it blows people's minds.  What's cool about it though is you can't really get caught because it appears like a regular deck if examined after.. unless the person examining is a magician which knows about the mneumonica stack.  So that deck is a must for me.

I agree invisible deck is a great one to carry around.

Then I also like to carry around that trick I showed in the zoom session the other day.  It's a mind blowing trick and I love it.  I've gotten astounding reactions in person and on omegle with it.  (The brainwave/colossal blizzard trick).

So there are at least 4 decks I want to carry with me. 

There are ways to handle hecklers if they want to see deck etc.. like going into another trick.  I still need to work on my Heckler Managmenet.. I bet there is a book written on it even 😋. There are lots of magic tricks which aren't card magic which aren't examinable after. I am sure there are ways I can handle these cases.


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I have a 3D printer.  Thinking about printing out some of these and give it a go.  Probably cost like 50 cents each to print or so.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3324820


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I totally agree that having a deck in memorized order is mandatory if you do mem deck work. It's easy to switch it in by segueing into a coin trick or rubber band trick as you put the deck in your pocket. Then you can do "one more" as you remove the set up deck. And there are many great mem deck items that keep the deck in order.

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Hey, thanks for that tip about switching Mike.  That's such a wonderful way to switch decks.. i.e. just do a rubberband or coin trick in between.  Totally gives you excuse to put deck in pocket and take out another after.. love it.
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Mike, what's the actual name of that one rubberband trick where you make one rubberband pass through the other?  I've been working on it and can do it really slow, but I think I am using the wrong rubberbands or something as it seems harder than it should be.   And they have broken on me a couple times and it really hurts your hands when they do that!  Is there a particular rubberband I should buy?
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Hi Jennifer. You're likely referring to what has become known as "Crazy Man's Handcuffs." I think Michael Ammar gave it that name and also popularized it. I think number 19 bands are recommended. It may depend on the size of your hands, though. 

CMH is a great impromptu, walk-around, trick. Put in the time to make it look good and you'll have a real worker.

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Hi Jennifer. You're likely referring to what has become known as "Crazy Man's Handcuffs." I think Michael Ammar gave it that name and also popularized it. I think number 19 bands are recommended. It may depend on the size of your hands, though. 

CMH is a great impromptu, walk-around, trick. Put in the time to make it look good and you'll have a real worker.

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Thanks Mike, I'll try those #19 bands! 😉. Is there a particular brand you use? I'd like ones which don't break easy?  Hurts like heck when they do! 
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Joe Rindfleisch and Dan Harlan are the two top guys producing rubber band magic. Joe has a website on which he sells a variety of colors of excellent rubber bands. Here's the link:

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EndersGame, thanks for your suggestion with the paper.  I went with it.  I used 110 lb index stock for the 2 inch wide sleeves.  I cut them 9 inches long then folded and glued together with Avery Permanent Glue Stick.  I then printed out various labels on my color laser printer on glossy paper -- scratch resistant and high enough heat to prevent flaking; I glued these onto the index stock sleeves with the same glue.  Loving this solution.  I have many more to make.

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Jennifer, that looks very professional - nicely done!
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Added a few more.  Forgot to make a sleeve for the Mneumonica deck, front left.  That'll be in the next batch 😋

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Just a quick FYI before you print it, it's Mnemonica -- there's no "u" :)

These card sleeves look awesome Jennifer/EndersGame -- honestly I'm inspired to get rid of all my cassette holders lol
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Thanks for pointing that out Matt G!  I probably would of spelled it wrong even with the red squiggly line underneath it from the spell checker in the desktop publishing application 😋.


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That looks amazing, Jennifer. 

It makes my effort look like something done by a kindergarten kid!

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Thanks EndersGames .. well if it wasn't for the kindergarten kid I would of never learned about this clever method 😉. Seriously though your's looks great.. I just am a busy body.. always crafting stuff with paper lol. 
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I've come to hate gaffed decks. You can do incredible magic with a regular deck of cards. My one exception right now is "Little Door" by Roddy McGee. ( ya, I know. I misspelled his name) Little Door gets such a strong response. And it's not a knuckle-bender. The only hard part is performing it with the requisite Scottish accent. That's a knack thing I haven't gotten down yet. But like the I-Ching says ...."perservance furthers"
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Just to interject a bit of self-effacing humor … I’m familiar with an Invisible Deck and forcing decks.  As well as blank-backed, blank-faced, and double backed decks.  

But I’ve never learnt, nor even attempted to learn, what Svengali, Brainwave, Omni, Mirage, Mneumonica, XY, Mindswipe, and other gaffed decks are.


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I like my "Mindwipe" deck of cards.. the temporary name I gave Asi Wind's Penn & Teller Christmas 2019 Trick, until he publishes it and names it.  I get crazy reactions with it and well I fooled a lot of magicians with it.. so I gotta keep that one for sure.. and Mnemonica of course.. hrm and Omni Deck!  And so forth 😉
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I just made teh XY deck the other day.  Asi Wind came out with it recently -- he tells you how to make it for free and shows you how to use it for different tricks.  

https://www.asiwindstore.com

I love Asi Wind so had to make it .. mess around with it for fun.  It uses shortened corners.


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I think most magicians don't have problems using a stacked deck (e.g. Mnemonica) because there is so much one can do with it.  I just recently memorized the entire Mnemonica stack and know Asi Wind's ACAAN well.  It's a powerful trick.. spectator names any card at any position and you just pour the cards into their hands and they count and it is there.
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Just created an Any Card routine using standard deck of cards which has same effect of invisible deck but fully examinable on both sides, no roughing.  I had to create a new sleight to do it.. haven't seen the sleight before, but guessing this sleight has already been done before.
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Hey Jennifer, would you be so kind as to share the template you used to make these? They look so nice! I'm going to retire my cassette cases, they're too clunky, you & EndersGame have totally inspired me 😉
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I did it in Pages, do you have Mac OS?  I made them for 2 inch wide paper, paper is 9 inches long.  I used 110# index stock for paper.. so it's easy to slide on because it is so thick.
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I did it in Pages, do you have Mac OS?
Ahh I don't, I use Linux, but I'm sure there's some free conversion software out there 😉 But I've got the dimensions so I'll just make it myself, figured no reason to reinvent the wheel if you had them handy but no worries 😉

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Just curious what desktop publishing software do you use on Linux?
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Jennifer, I've said this before but I'll say it again...I can't believe that you've only been practicing magic for less than a year. 
You inspire me!! I'm so glad that you're a member of this community 😉

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Aww thanks Rudy!  Means a lot to me coming from you!  I am so blessed to be part of this community, with so many awesome magicians!
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I just use LibreOffice. Nothing fancy but gets the job done!
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Matt, here is the file on google drive: 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XNu8S4AXDaCvDBDHMTn4WNJBpXHceiID/view?usp=sharing
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Matt, here is the PDF of it:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-N6a0dK7Br1nlPap5C_l7eSflJ4_SUJ_/view?usp=sharing
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Much appreciated 😉
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