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JoshP06

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I've noticed that Card College includes a lot of material from Dai Vernon's Inner Secrets of Card Magic by Ganson.

So let's say theoretically you have $100 and you could either choose Card College 3/4 or the Inner Card Trilogy. Which would you choose?

Which would be more helpful in terms of growth and learning in card magic?

Let me know because I'm not sure honestly. Cause ya know, it's Vernon. But I also love the Card College books too.

Thank you.

Josh
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Alan Smithee

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Does "Card College" include "a lot of material from Dai Vernon's Inner Secrets of Card Magic by Ganson"?

I know Giobbi is a massive Vernon worshipper and references him all over the place, but there's material from everybody in "Card College," even someone not a million miles from here. Despite noticing how many times he miscredits Lewis Ganson and hardly (if ever) mentions Harry Stanley in his books, I've never counted or done a survey on the actual Vernon material.
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I think it just comes down to technique vs tricks. Card College is about learning card magic skills and the tricks taught reinforce and illustrate their use. The Ganson books are about great card magic. They are different in their objective. You decide which is best for you.

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JoshP06

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Makes sense.

Thanks Barden.
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Hi Josh

From the perspective of learning new card tricks and new techniques I would suggest the Card College series I have 1-3 and the 3rd part has a lot of technical stuff and sleights in it. The Ganson books are great but as Barden mentioned those books are about great card magic and more like an insight to Vernon's mind and his sense of magic.

So the choice is yours on what do you want to learn.

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Marek makes some great points. Personally, I think Giobbi is a better writer than Ganson was and, combined with the illustrations by Roberto’s wife, it is much easier to learn the Vernon magic than through the Ganson books (even though the Ganson books are very good). Having said all that, if you are looking for great card magic usin g a variety of methods from a real variety of magicians and philosophies, and A LOT of both!!, you may wish to consider Harry Lorayne’s BEST OF FRIENDS volumes.


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I would add that if someone wants to access the Vernon books mentioned, and they don't mind ebook format, they are available relatively cheaply on Lybrary.com.  Way less than the cost of the hardcovers.
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I concur with the view that the Giobbi books would be of greater use. That's especially true given what RayJ mentioned i.e. the low cost of the Vernon material as eBooks from L&L. 

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Hi Josh

The Ganson books are great but as Barden mentioned those books are about great card magic and more like an insight to Vernon's mind and his sense of magic.




Gotcha. Thanks Marek.

I definitely think that Card College will do me more good as of now.

Appreciate it.
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I do know of the Lybrary pdfs. I really prefer to have a hard copy. Just something about having something tangible that you can look at without using your phone or computer.

Of course, Pdfs may be a good option since I'm sure those book prices will increase exponentially, even six months from now. Probably gonna hold off for the time being though.

Thanks all for your insight.

Josh

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Mbreggar, I totally agree Giobbi is a much better writer.  JoshP06, if you are getting into card magic, or have gotten to place where you are feeling that you are making progress, there is no question, living with Card College for the next few years would have a dramatic impact on you as a magician.  If you have achieved a level of mastery and feel that it is time to study the work of one magician, then Vernon would be the best place to start.  I say that in order to truly absorb what Vernon gave us, it is best to have most of the rudiments of magic in place first.
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...living with Card College for the next few years would have a dramatic impact on you as a magician.  If you have achieved a level of mastery and feel that it is time to study the work of one magician, then Vernon would be the best place to start.  I say that in order to truly absorb what Vernon gave us, it is best to have most of the rudiments of magic in place first.


Yeah, I'm definitely a big fan of Giobbi. His CC light series is phenomenal. After reading the RRTCM, I honestly think that Giobbi just makes more sense for me. I currently have vol 1 and 2 of the regular CC series. It's great.

Of course, that's not to say that some of the tricks in RR aren't great though. Just gotta put a modern spin on them and add your own touch.
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Yeah, I'll probably study Vernon later in life.

Josh
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