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Mind Phantom

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Do you have a cheap close up mat or one of the higher priced mats? I had a black close up mat which cost me $10 and lasted about 3.5 years.

I am thinking about getting a more expensive one from here...

https://www.pattricksmagic.com/magical-mats

What would you suggest? For as long as the cheap mats last 3.5 years..I got my $$ worth I think.

What kind of mat do you have? What color is it? Is it big or small?

Thanks in advance,

Rick,

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I have a few of Pattrick's mats in various sizes. 
I have a few sizes in old green that he no longer has. 
I also have mats in midnight blue, black and burgundy. 
I like the feel and nap of the Plush Material the best. It has enough give and is smooth enough for the magic that I perform.

And if you have any questions about his mats whatsoever, contact him. He's pretty friendly. 

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I have a few mats from Pattrick. I like the mats that have backing and fold. He has many sizes and will make you a custom mat if you prefer.

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Another vote for Pattrick's products here!

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I apologize for the particularly stupid post, but can I ask what it is about these card mats that make it worth it over a $20 piece of rollable felt that has a bit of friction so I can comfortably ribbon spread on it? 

I've had this thing https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BCK7BM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 since I started magic and have no problems with it.
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I apologize for the particularly stupid post, but can I ask what it is about these card mats that make it worth it over a $20 piece of rollable felt that has a bit of friction so I can comfortably ribbon spread on it? 

I've had this thing https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002BCK7BM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 since I started magic and have no problems with it.


Not a particularly stupid post. It's a legitimate question.

"Worth it" is relative (some don't use mats at all), and I don't have much experience of premium mats myself.

But I will say that I have one of the Magic Makers mats from Amazon too and I have found it noticeably worse than even the cheap VDF mat that Penguin sells. Less cushion, so it's harder to pick up a single card without sliding it around to get a grip like you'd have to on a hard tabletop, and the surface material is more prone to getting snagged. So there certainly are differences, which I can imagine being consequential for those who need their mats to make certain things (coin work, shuffle work, etc.) as easy as possible.
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I currently have 4 different mats. All black.

They all have their pros and cons.

Born Book Mat by Patrick - $29 This is one of the fold-able ones. 7X5 inch closed and 7X10 inch open. This is my newest one and I love it. I use it all the time if I'm a passenger in the car. Plop it down on a book or the back of my 10 inch tablet and I'm good to work on stuff. When folded it will fit in my back pocket but barely. It's 4 layers and I hope it holds up well because it is a little pricey for something so small in my opinion.

14x18 Magic Mat Close Up Pad Trevor Duffy- About $27. 2 Layers This thing is super durable. I have had mine for probably 10 years and it looks like the day I bought it. This is the one I will throw in my overnight bag if I am going somewhere. You can literally wad this thing up and it springs back to life without a crease or tear. It's also fully washable. The big drawback is that it's definitely firmer than I like and the surface isn't the usual plush type that I prefer. That being said, it was fairly cheap, decent size, and it beats performing/practicing on a slick/hard surface any day.

Ronjo Super Classy- This one was $40 I think but I got a small discount on it. 34 inch diameter half circle. 2 layers. This one has a lot of real estate. I like it if I'm at home and working on any gambling stuff. Lot of room to deal out poker hands. It's a little firmer than I prefer but I've grown used to it. The surface is good but has started to separate from the rubber base after a decade or so of use and washing when needed. The separation is minor.

Sean Yang 3 way mirror/close up pad - $40 normally. I got this on a clearance for $20. 3 layers I think. This is my least favorite. Mirror sheets on one side and felt on the other. Its advertised as the size of an A4 sheet of paper when folded up. That sounds right. So imagine three of those together. This is VERY firm for a mat and very flexible for a mirror.  Frankly not that enjoyable to use as a close up pad. The mirrored side is a mirror Mylar film I believe. It can have a bit of that fun house mirror warp if not set up perfectly straight. Also having such a narrow middle panel isn't that great in my opinion. Also, it STINKS when you first get it, literally. It has a very strong chemical odor when you first get it. I suppose it's the glue but it's foul. To be fair the smell was completely gone in a few days and now you would never know. I would never recommend this for $40. I think it's wildly overpriced for what you get. That being said, I DO use it as a mirror when I'm travelling since it packs so small.

I'm considering picking up one of the Murphy mats. The construction looks very similar to patricks mats and the price seems very reasonable for the size. I'll update if I decide to grab one.

It was long winded I know but that's how I usually respond haha.
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I have and use Murphy's mats. They are very durable and the standard provides enough cushioning but I think the deluxe version would be better. I stretched it, bent it, rolled it and stepped on it and they still hold their shape with no creases or signs of damage whatsoever. The deluxe ones are the ones I plan to use for my customizable mats that I will sell on my website. More info in this thread here: https://www.themagiciansforum.com/post/customized-closeup-matpad-10542753

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The mats from TCC are reasonable and seem to stand up to use.
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