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what are the best routines by the professor? the only vernon routine I do now is twisting aces and I'm looking to add some of his best effects to my repertoire
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Tom, there are so many, it’s tough to know where to begin! Vernon thought so much about his effects and the minute details that can make the mundane appear so magical.
If you are looking at cards, you can’t pass up Vernon’s “Triumph”. Many versions have been published since Vernon brought the original forward and very few have had the same impact. I am also a big fan of his “Emotional Reaction”. I like his “Slow Motion Aces” but most of Harry Lorayne’s Ace Tricks are better. (“Halo Aces” to name one of MANY)

Vernon’s Spellbound is a must if you are studying coin magic. And it has been said his cups and balls routine is the definitive. (Many have said before you learn any other cups and balls routines, you need to study and learn Vernon’s version. Both Daryl and Michael Ammar have videos teaching this in detail.

And this is just for a start! It ought to keep you busy for a while!!
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Whether you know it or not, I'll bet many things you do involve something from Vernon. If you do close-up magic at all, there's no doubt his influence is there. "Be natural", "Effect is everything" and "Find a hook" are all Vernon ideas and they permeate much of magic. Or should.
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As mentioned, Vernon's cups and balls routine is a classic. So is his linking ring routine, "Symphony of the Rings." 

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I agree with Slow Motion Aces being one of the better Vernon effects. It's fun.
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Tom, the Dai Vernon Book of Magic and Stars of Magic are worth owning. That will give you a good view of Vernon and then you can decide if you want more.
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I've always enjoyed the challenge of The Trick That Cannot Be Explained. 

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I'm with Anthony on this! This effect should be required for any magician who pursues close-up magic in the context of performing for laymen. 

It takes a variety of skill sets and blends them together in a roller coaster ride of a card trick that is NEVER the same effect twice!
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Speaking of Vernon's Cups and Balls routine..  Bob White, who spent a lot of time with Charlie Miller, had Charlie tell him that Vernon's cup routine was perfect the way it was.  Pretty high praise coming from Charlie. 
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Speaking of Vernon's Cups and Balls routine..  Bob White, who spent a lot of time with Charlie Miller, had Charlie tell him that Vernon's cup routine was perfect the way it was.  Pretty high praise coming from Charlie. 


My "main" cup routine has always been Vernon's. The only change is I don't do the fake explanation. Not that I have issue with it, I just don't do it.
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Whether you know it or not, I'll bet many things you do involve something from Vernon. If you do close-up magic at all, there's no doubt his influence is there. "Be natural", "Effect is everything" and "Find a hook" are all Vernon ideas and they permeate much of magic. Or should.


that's what got me intrigued by Vernon. I've been reading a lot about who he was and how important his contributions were to magic and it began to feel disrespectful not to study someof his work directly.
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Tom, the Dai Vernon Book of Magic and Stars of Magic are worth owning. That will give you a good view of Vernon and then you can decide if you want more.


thank you so much. stars of magic is an amazing book. cant believe I've been into magic most of my life and never read this before.
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TomV you're welcome.  All the routines in that book are worth at least a good read over, even if you aren't interested in performing them.
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I have "Emotional Reaction" pretty close to the top. Some great Vernon thinking and easy from a technical standpoint.
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I agree with Slow Motion Aces being one of the better Vernon effects. It's fun.


Exactly. I've been recently working on one of his version (the one from The Chronicles). It's exquisite and the display seems really fair.

I do love Out of sight, Out of mind. It's an absolute impromptu gem.

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Lucas - check out Michael Vincent's "Kismet" which uses the Out of Sight Out of Mind concept. Very cool routine.

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Lucas - check out Michael Vincent's "Kismet" which uses the Out of Sight Out of Mind concept. Very cool routine.

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Mike,

I might be wrong but Kismet is using  two different techniques to accomplish the effect and none of them is related (in my opinion) to OOSOOM.

Kismet however is using the same principle as Emotional Reaction.

Am I missing something here?

Anyway, Kismet is an absolute stunner but more related to a Do as I do type of routine.

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Ouch! Sorry Lucas I was thinking of Emotional Reaction and confused it with OOSOOM for some reason - probably old age!

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TomV you're welcome.  All the routines in that book are worth at least a good read over, even if you aren't interested in performing them.


id like to try almost everything in the book based on the effect descriptions. the veron stuff looks primo. im learning most of itif i can pull off the watch steal and vernons mental card miracle ill be a happy man. the slydini section I saw performed years ago
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If you like Twisting the Aces, you would definitely like Vernon's Variant. It is the trick I always do to follow Twisting the Aces. It uses the same moves for the most part, and strengthens the effect. After the Aces "twist" by themselves, you hand them to the spectator and take four indifferent cards. Say "follow me." As you take the four cards and do all the moves, yours will end up face down, but he "has the Aces and they will twist on you." Take the face up ace out of his packet each time, and put it face down back on the top of his packet. That way, a different ace will turn up each time. It drives them crazy.
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This thread deserves a resurrection!

Let's talk about Vernon...

I see that "Thought Transposed" ("More Inner Secrets of Card Magic") has not been mentioned; a wonderful card magic effect by The Professor I have practised a lot and included in my regular repertoire.

Another good ones that has not been mentioned is "Cutting the Aces" and "Mental Card Miracle" ("Stars of Magic").

"Matching the Cards" and "Colour Changing Pack" are other great card routines to take into account ("Inner Secrets of Card Magic").

"Three Card Monte" and "The Four blue backed Aces" have been in my regular repertoire as well ("Further Inner Secrets of Card Magic").



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The Five Card Mental Force of Dai Vernon is a worthwhile study, this kind of thinking is the real deal and by understanding the linguistics behind it you will reap multiple rewards.
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Tom, the Dai Vernon Book of Magic and Stars of Magic are worth owning. That will give you a good view of Vernon and then you can decide if you want more.


The Challenge from Book of Magic is an amazing piece of psychology. I couldn’t believe it would work, until I tried it with a real live spectator. It’s almost frightening when you actually see it unfold. The book says it has a profound effect on people, and it really does.

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You should look for the Vernon Chronicles 4 volume set. Lots of great Vernon stuff. I'll add a few more effects:
1. Aces To Order
2. Why Am I Here
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I have volumes 1,2 and 3. I didn't know there was a fourth volume.
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Thank you. Is this a collection of the 3?
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Thank you. Is this a collection of the 3?
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The photo I attached above is Volume 4 of The Vernon Chronicles.

There is a trilogy known as The Inner Card Trilogy book. See attached photo.


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Thanks again. I just ordered Vol 4 from LandL.
I already have all of the Inner Secrets, I think.
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Roberto Giobbi's Vernon Seminar (Vanishing Inc) is an excellent way to slide into a study of Dai Vernon, perhap's our most important scholar.

For me, the pieces in the Stars of Magic are at the top of the Vernon canon.  Along with Ganson's Dai Vernon Book of Magic, a working knowledge of both books would constitute an impressive arsenal of moves and deceptive / commercial magic.  The next step would be to cover the Ganson / Inner Secrets series, and then the brilliant Minch / Chronicles series.  The Vernon chapter in Expert Card Technique (Hugard and Braue) is enlightening and the video series (Videonics - Canada) he did with Ammar, Oulett, and Freeman offer many, many insights that bring much meaning and clarity to his work.  Finally, there are plenty of YouTube videos of Vernon to watch, study and enjoy.

Individual items?  Card Tricks:  Triumph, Slow Motion Aces, Seven Card Monte (so, so good!), Secrets, Twisting the Aces, and the Genii Magazine (December 2001) Out of Sight, Out of Mind Improved.  

Card Moves: Back Breaker, Kiss Pass (Ultimate Secrets), Top Palm (no finer general use method exist,) Multiple Shift, Strip Out Addition (revolutionary and though classic, under-exploited), and his Transfer Move. 



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Tom, there are so many, it’s tough to know where to begin! Vernon thought so much about his effects and the minute details that can make the mundane appear so magical.
If you are looking at cards, you can’t pass up Vernon’s “Triumph”. Many versions have been published since Vernon brought the original forward and very few have had the same impact.
Dai Vernon's Triumph was the first serious sleight of hand card effect I mastered ( 37 years ago ) and the Stars of Magic the 2nd pro book I bought. I use Triumph all the time. It's like the first song you learn that you really love to play as a musician; it brings you into an undiscovered exciting new world.
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Any interest in Vernon should be started with this performance by Ed Kwon.


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Any interest in Vernon should be started with this performance by Ed Kwon.

Sorry, only had time to watch the 1st two fx. The first seems to be David Roth's Shell Coins Across. Lord knows what that the 2nd one is. I'll look for Vernon effects tomorrow.
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