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In his book Scams & Fantasies With Cards, Darwin Ortiz has a neat presentation with card cheats switching cards in play in his routine called The Brush.

I don't really like the routine, but, I love his patter ! With his patter you can take your favorite 4 Ace Assembly and turn it into a stunning gambling demo. It's kinda hard to talk about without tipping his presentation.

But, ask yourself..why do an Ace Assembly with no reason but to follow the leader card ? Wouldn't that be kind of lame ? If you think about it. Part of Darwin's patter is " when I practice the Brush, I do it three times in succession ". See, now you have a reason to do a 4 ace assembly, your showing the spectators a gambling move that you practice to.

I wish I could tip his whole patter for you, but, have to buy the book or dvd for that.
The 4 ace assembly that I use to do this with is the routine Modern Jazz Aces, also by Ortiz from his at the Card Table vhs tape.  ( I have the old tape ). Each spot card is switched for a Ace one at a time.

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PS; I just went to youtube and found someone doing the Brush, with Darwin's patter, word for word. That's sad, have we all turned into " trick monkeys " or what.

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Agreed. I'm not excited about that routine, either.  But, wow - I sure do agree with you on the patter problem - actually a motivation problem - with most ace assemblies.  You're right.  Why do this?  It just seems too contrived.  That may be why assemblies have never seemed very magically entertaining to me, though the effect itself is darn fun to do, and truly surprising.  But that's kind of an issue - are we just surprising or magically entertaining the spectator?

But in the context of a motivation for the assembly being a gambling demo, I think you're on to something by using the Brush patter.  At least the audience has a framework for what's going on, and the ace assembly becomes entertaining rather than just surprising. 


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It was actually Darwin Ortiz who made the suggestion for connecting ace assembly routines into a gambling demo, not me. The presentation is the key.

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What specifically is it that you don't like about the routine?
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Just one thing really. In showing the Kings to the spectators, you have to show 2 of the same kings twice as four.

If a spectator is really paying close attention..there is a good chance they will remember one of the kings.

Also it's much easier for me to do Jazz Aces than the one in the book.

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Finally giving an ace assembly a meaningful presentation was one of the things I enjoyed about that routine. I'm sure there have been meaningful and relevant presentations before, but it was the first I saw. 
Since then I've also heard a similar idea of presenting it as how you practice pick pocketing, and getting 4 spectators to each place a packet in their pocket... 


I must admit I'm not really a fan of ace assemblies in general (I also strongly dislike spelling effects). But I set a challenge at a magic group meetup, to find an effect you dislike and find a version or way to perform it that you do like. During that research I became a fan of John Bannon's versions which have a weird timing element to them (I think he called that set of routines Bullet Train).




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Just one thing really. In showing the Kings to the spectators, you have to show 2 of the same kings twice as four. If a spectator is really paying close attention..there is a good chance they will remember one of the kings.

I believe that what an audience pays attention to is often a function of the performer. This situation, showing three of a kind as four of a kind, shows up very often in Card Magic and I've never had a problem with it. Have you been called on it before?

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Yes, and with this routine. I started to show a few friends the Brush after I got a working knowledge of the routine. 

One of my friends at work said "oops" when the second King came up again. Now understand, when I say I have a " working knowledge " of the routine, I mean, it doesn't have the polish on it like a routine you would do for a show. I was sort of going thru the motions sleight wise, does that make sense ?

As you say, the audience is focused on the performer. And I agree with that. Maybe, I gave up on the routine a little to quick?! I don't know. I love Darwin Ortiz's stuff ! I have all his vhs tapes ( from his first 3 books ), from long ago. Also, when I did this routine for the guy at work, he was standing right to my left side, i.e it wasn't face to face.

As in my op, I really like the patter he uses and the reason to do an ace assembly in the first place. It's just as easy for me to do Jazz Aces then his routine in the book. Understand that I am a mental/palm guy that knows a few gambling moves lol.

Just for the sake of discussion , how would you handle this routine ? How much practice would you give it before doing it in a show?

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As you say, the audience is focused on the performer.

Just to clarify: I didn't actually say that...
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Just for the sake of discussion , how would you handle this routine ? How much practice would you give it before doing it in a show?

Are you referring to the sequence where you're showing two Kings as four?

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Are you referring to the sequence where you're showing two Kings as four?


No, it can be any routine that you desire to add to your set. How do you know it's ready to be a worker for you ? And do you have a "braintrust " that you show effects to to get a reaction from.

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