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JenniferG

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I need to get some Dental Dam for custom Gimmick card.  I see some which are pretty affordable on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Crosstex-19100-Dental-Unflavored-Medium/dp/B01A0UK4DM

But they come in three thicknesses:  light, medium and heavy.

Which one is best for making gimmick cards?  The heavy?

Is dental dam what is used for rising card out of deck box?  I made one with rubber band and when I was making it I thought to myself "it would help if there was something flat wide and stretchy".. but nothing came to mind then.  Now it does.
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I have a box of surgical gloves here and tried them out.. works well for rising card trick.   I guess I'll try making flap/acrobat cards with them.
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FWIW... I use medium (Dental Dam)
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Hi Jennifer,
Just a follow-up...

I purchased a box of the dam in your post (medium), just because the price was amazingly low for dam. Sadly... not a good quality product for card gaffing.

More expensive, for sure, but try this...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H8RWKRC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
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Check out Don England's "Gaffed to the Hilt" for some great gaffed cards that use dental dam. 

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On another forum, in a thread about dental dam, they were talking blue medium.
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Evan S.

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@Chris Karim... yes, the one I linked to is also medium, but a much stronger product. Richard Kaufman recommends blue. I currently use black.
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I need to get some Dental Dam for custom Gimmick card.  I see some which are pretty affordable on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Crosstex-19100-Dental-Unflavored-Medium/dp/B01A0UK4DM

But they come in three thicknesses:  light, medium and heavy.

Which one is best for making gimmick cards?  The heavy?

Is dental dam what is used for rising card out of deck box?  I made one with rubber band and when I was making it I thought to myself "it would help if there was something flat wide and stretchy".. but nothing came to mind then.  Now it does.


There are quite a few methods for rising a card out of a box, I have seen quite a few (but not all) and I've never seen dental dam used for the effect.  I've seen everything from invis thread to fishing line and led weights.  

If that is what you are looking for I recommend Kundalini Rising by Jeff McBride.  I recommend it because it works best for me.  Borrow the deck, have the spectator shuffle. Pick the card, have the spectator sign the card.  Have the card placed in the deck, place the deck back  in the card box.  Have the spectator hold the box as the signed selection rises out of the box, and of course, if you wish all can be given out after.  

It can take a little work. 

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I agree with Bmat that Kundalini Rising is a very practical and magical rising card effect.

Another that's very good uses a loop of mono-filament line on an elastic pull that comes out of your sleeve. I forget the origin of this device. But I have seen it used in the real world and it works great. In the end, the gizmo goes back up your sleeve and the deck is clean.

The disadvantage of Kundalini Rising is that the upward force provided by the IT is pretty small. McBride recommends using a half deck inside a box. What's cool about it is that the spec holds the box! You do have to coax the spectator to "relax" so that she progressively exerts less force on the deck, allowing the card to finally rise. It can become obvious to the spectators that you're basically telling her to loosen her grip. That's going to hurt the effect by telegraphing that the card won't rise because she's holding the box too tightly.

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I agree with Bmat that Kundalini Rising is a very practical and magical rising card effect.

Another that's very good uses a loop of mono-filament line on an elastic pull that comes out of your sleeve. I forget the origin of this device. But I have seen it used in the real world and it works great. In the end, the gizmo goes back up your sleeve and the deck is clean.

The disadvantage of Kundalini Rising is that the upward force provided by the IT is pretty small. McBride recommends using a half deck inside a box. What's cool about it is that the spec holds the box! You do have to coax the spectator to "relax" so that she progressively exerts less force on the deck, allowing the card to finally rise. It can become obvious to the spectators that you're basically telling her to loosen her grip. That's going to hurt the effect by telegraphing that the card won't rise because she's holding the box too tightly.

Mike


Like I said, it can take a little work.  But done right its fantastic. I don't use a full deck but really I found if I remove just a few cards it works just fine.  

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How about gimmicked cards by Hondo? He uses thin elastic thread and no more dental dam. A lot of pros changed to his system. The cards are thinner and the flaps work faster. Andost, Yann Frisch or Shin Lim work with Hondo style cards.
In Berlin is a certificated card maker for Hondo. I saw the cards live and the possibilities are much bigger then with dental dam.


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