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MagicOrthodoxy

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HELP !!!!

I got this from Penguin a few weeks back and am really struggling with this. The typed out instructions with hand drawn pictures are not doing it for me.

I am following the instructions EXACTLY like I should and when the rope goes "taught" the first time - the tension is coming from the right leg and not the left ....?


and when I go to the left - the rope doesn't move at all ... the last time I attempted this, I pulled so hard one of the small ropes came undone from the tape. (UGH)

Are there better instructions out there, can you tell what I am doing wrong?

Thanks to anyone who can help me out of this ickle pickle


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David, if the instructions are so poorly written, well that tells me everything I’d need to know about product’s quality. Life is too short to struggle that much with a rope trick.

Or maybe that’s the comedy
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First, it should have no tape. It should be one really long rope and one shorter. I'd return it. It might not be the correct lengths either.
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It's one long piece of rope and 2 sliding  shorter pieces - the rope that goes down my right leg, I had to redo it so that it was long enough for my inseem - that helped a little
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It's one long piece of rope and 2 sliding  shorter pieces - the rope that goes down my right leg, I had to redo it so that it was long enough for my inseem - that helped a little


I suspect that is the issue.  I have heard that some of the sets that people have gotten are not cut properly.  The short piece should have a knot on one end and a loop on the other and it needs to be at least two to three feet long in your case.
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Right now my issue is the last "leg" of the effect - pulling that tends to pull "both sides" of the rope and my underwear wants to come out prematurely. Does your underwear need to be TIGHT against your body to prevent slipage?

(reading that back. .... wow )

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David, I don't know if you tried to reach out to Ickle Pickle, but Steve Bender, who I assume is still the owner, is a nice guy and probably would love to help a customer.

Address:
Ickle Pickle Products
808 Somerton Ridge Drive
St. Louis, MO 63141
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(314) 500-1999


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THANKS RAY
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THANKS RAY


You're welcome.  I've worked for several manufacturers.  One of my biggest gripes is when someone says they've been having issues with a product but never reported it.

I wish they had.  Feedback is a blessing and if something is not right or the description isn't adequate, then changes are in order.

But they can't change if they don't know it's broke, right?
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You're welcome.  I've worked for several manufacturers.  One of my biggest gripes is when someone says they've been having issues with a product but never reported it.

I wish they had.  Feedback is a blessing and if something is not right or the description isn't adequate, then changes are in order.

But they can't change if they don't know it's broke, right?


As a person that has had a few products on the market, I agree that feedback is golden.  I am the guy actually building/making the product, so as an engineer/magician/builder, it helps for me to understand what the struggle points are, so I can improve them.  I like to make robust, durable products.  I mean, my name is on it, so I want to do what I can to make it worth the purchase and usable for many years.  I've even serviced some items after their warranty period, just to keep the customers happy, since they said they enjoyed using the products so much.

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At 1:54, is what I did as my version of a "Professor's Cheer" (I had never seen the actual full version of the Professor's Cheer). This was back in 2004 (when I still had hair) at the Magi Fest.  I got very dead last.  I mostly did it to poke fun at some of the "typical" magic competition routines.  I did get a lot of positive feedback from other magicians.  The judges just didn't like it.  I made everything you see in this routine borrowed the whiteboard idea from Ken Scott.

I did this routine (with improvements and shaved head) for 2005 Michigan Magic Day and got 1st for stage (I also had gotten 2nd for dose-up - Rick Merrill got first that year, deservedly so).

So, while you see it's not the actual Professor's Cheer routine, it was a fun bit.  I did have to play around with the placement of the other stuff that came out, just to be sure it didn't get stuck somewhere.  In practicing, I did have a couple of spots where things just got stuck.  I guess my main point is, maybe there's a slightly different position that can make it work for you (this being said without knowing the actual routing).

Tom Kracker


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I don't perform any version of this effect so I can't offer any personal experience.  But in this youtube performance video



it is indeed the right leg that comes into play as soon as the rope stops coming from the sleeve.  Maybe your setup is correct, but the instructions are reversed?
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I used to close my Blue & Gold banquet show with this. I did reverse it to start in my left sleeve to fit the routine I was doing. I bought the instructions from Dallas Magicland about 50 years ago and all I got was one page mimeographed. It took a bit of experimenting but it was worth it. Good luck.

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