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Hi Fellas,

I do a few effects using double facers where the backs are different. In each deck of double facers, there are a number of cards with the same face on both sides. I’ve collected a ton of these but don’t have any use for them...yet.

Any suggestions on some effects that use these cards?

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Rudy,

There's an effect where a spectator selects a card and signs it. Then another spectator selects another card and also signs it. Then the magician, with his magical powers fuses (or pretends to fuse) the two cards together and in the end you show a card with the two signed faces (and of course no back) and it can be given as a strange but spectacular souvenir. 

Well of course this has to be done with a card with two different faces. Maybe you can find some of those in your bunch of cards you have.

I am not sure, but I think this plot was born in the early 80s in one of Richard Kaufman's early books, Cardworks. I cannot check because I don't have that book. Maybe someone can chime in and confirm or correct this information.

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Dai Vernon had a famous trick where one card would be selected, then he would throw the deck and the selection would be the onlu card face uo.



You could probably play around with the inversion plot and triumph quite a bit with this card.

I've also thought the paddle move with cards could lead to some particularly fun ideas.
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How could I forger all backs routines, the same could be done with an all faces routine.
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Rudy,

There's an effect where a spectator selects a card and signs it. Then another spectator selects another card and also signs it. Then the magician, with his magical powers fuses (or pretends to fuse) the two cards together and in the end you show a card with the two signed faces (and of course no back) and it can be given as a strange but spectacular souvenir. 

Well of course this has to be done with a card with two different faces. Maybe you can find some of those in your bunch of cards you have.

I am not sure, but I think this plot was born in the early 80s in one of Richard Kaufman's early books, Cardworks. I cannot check because I don't have that book. Maybe someone can chime in and confirm or correct this information.


Fusion.  Although the most popular variation is probably anniversary waltz.

http://www.geniimagazine.com/magicpedia/Fusion
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Anniversary Waltz. You don’t HAVE to use the special perfect double backers. When performing for a couple, I use any random double backer and try to ad lib some banter about the suit and number. Usually I can come up with something. I save the good combos for special couples. I see that Doc Eason has a free tutorial on the Murphy’s web site
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I think the classic thrown deck was when the deck was thrown over the side of a boat. 51 DBers and one same both sides. The selection is the only card facing up.

I think there's a booklet called SBS - Same Both Sides. The name Lloyd Jones comes to mind, but I'm not sure. When I get back to command central I'll see if I can find it.

I too have a sh**load of same both sides cards.

How about Fusion of a red backed JC and a blue backed JC ending with a SBS JC and a R/B DBer.



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there has to be something with a triumphant feel to it!

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Mike hit the nail on the head...
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S10346

It's a good book, and I've actually purchased a few SBS decks. You can find additional ideas if you search around in Alexander (CARC).
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Hi Fellas, I do a few effects using double facers where the backs are different. In each deck of double facers, there are a number of cards with the same face on both sides. I’ve collected a ton of these but don’t have any use for them...yet. Any suggestions on some effects that use these cards? Rudy


Rudy,

There is actually a book exclusively devoted to this, entitled, "S. B. S. Same Both Sides," by Lloyd E. Jones. (43 pages).  It is available from Penguin Magic for $7.50 + shipping.  I can't really give you a review since I don't own it and haven't read or seen it.

Here is the link:

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S10346

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Rudy, trust me, buy Bob Farmer's packet effect Mutanz. Some of the cards you've been collecting can be used as spares. Besides, it is one of the best packet tricks ever. 


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McDonald's aces comes to mind with this
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I had an idea years ago that I never quite worked out, but it used a same both sides card. 

It was a weird piece of dual reality. The deck is shuffled face up into face down. You sit 2 participants opposite each other. You sit next to one of them and ask them to touch any card as you spread through. You must classic force the double faced card which you upjog. 
Say that you want the spectator who can see the face to remember the card, and the spectator who can see the back to imagine any card they like.
i then removed the double facer (using a switch I came up with (but can no longer remember) to switch it for the matching normal card) and place it face down on the table. 
Now they both name their card and they both name the same card. 

I didn't really feel like the effect was that strong, and it would be super easy for each person to work out what happened so I stopped working on it. 

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I posted this to the Perverse Magic thread of the Genii Forum on November 1, 2010. It’s explained fully there:

(Double face card but not the same card - might be of interest.)

 

Merger

 

The evening was coming to an end. The card game was over. The magician lost a few dollars. Of course he didn’t take his turn dealing – no one told him not to but everyone agreed that “it was for the best”.

 

“Did you learn any new card tricks since last time?” one of the fellows asked. 

 

“Well – uh – I read something but I don’t know if it works.”

 

“Yeah? What?”

 

“Well – let me try with two cards – any cards I guess. Here, we can use say the five of hearts and the queen of clubs. We put them back to back. Like this. And press. Like this. WOW! Look! It worked! The two cards merged into one card!”

 

The magician is as amazed as his friends. It’s now a single card with the five of hearts on one side and the queen of clubs on the other.

 

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Rudy, trust me, buy Bob Farmer's packet effect Mutanz. Some of the cards you've been collecting can be used as spares. Besides, it is one of the best packet tricks ever. 




Thanks for the suggestion, Paul! I’m checking it out now.

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Just thinking on the fly but what about something that "unfuses" the double facer.

- Secretly add 2 cards that match the double facer.
- Introduce a double backer and explain you are going to try and separate the   double backer and double facer into something more useful.
- Lose the double backer and double facer and locate the regular cards.
- Bring the double facer and double backer to couple cards of bottom and spread hiding them showing the spec they are gone.
- Explain as you have no use for 2 cards with the same suit and value give one away or switch the double facer back in and do Anniversary Waltz. Or do something torn and restore appearing to destroy both cards and bring one back?

This was just one silly quick idea and I am sure others could add something more substantive. 
 

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Hi Fellas, 

Thanks for the ideas! 

I'm going to go ahead and purchase "S. B. S. Same Both Sides," by Lloyd E. Jones. It's pretty cheap. I'll let you know what it's like.

Rudy

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There are lot's of tricks with double facers.But with the same both sides are few.

Max Maven did panache with df same both sides.



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Hi Fellas, 

Thanks for the ideas! 

I'm going to go ahead and purchase "S. B. S. Same Both Sides," by Lloyd E. Jones. It's pretty cheap. I'll let you know what it's like.

Rudy


You are welcome, Rudy.  Hopefully the book will contain some nice ideas and effects so you can put your collection of SBS double facers to good use.  Wishing a Happy and Magical New Year to you and your family!

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I dug out my copy of SBS. There are some very good ideas in there.

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Avery odd use of SBS cards can be found in my effect, "Mutanz." For details, email bammomagic@cogeco.ca

See:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=5371&forum=2

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Rudy,

There's an effect where a spectator selects a card and signs it. Then another spectator selects another card and also signs it. Then the magician, with his magical powers fuses (or pretends to fuse) the two cards together and in the end you show a card with the two signed faces (and of course no back) and it can be given as a strange but spectacular souvenir. 

Well of course this has to be done with a card with two different faces. Maybe you can find some of those in your bunch of cards you have.

I am not sure, but I think this plot was born in the early 80s in one of Richard Kaufman's early books, Cardworks. I cannot check because I don't have that book. Maybe someone can chime in and confirm or correct this information.


Rudy, I Believe I seen something like that while watching a clip of Joshua Jay unreal series ! 
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