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If my hands were non-stick frying pans they'd be the market leader.

I'm constantly licking and spitting on my hands when shuffling, sleighting and generally whenever I handle cards. having to constantly dampen my hands through routines breaks any smoothness of rhythm I want to portray.

As a health professional constant phlegm application doesn't sit well with me regarding infection control and... well... just common hygiene.

I don't think it's a great look either. As a spectator I think I'd be grossed out by a magician constantly licking his fingers/palms.

Are there any favourite liniments, creams or age old secret solutions for Teflon hands?  

Any other advice/pearls of wisdom?

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Have you seen Harry Lorayne's lecture?  He keeps a moist towelette for for that reason.  Pretty much the best thing I picked up from there...[rofl] (kidding of course).

Roborto Giobbi also recommends non-greasy creams like 'Sortkwik' or ones sold in office supply stores for bank tellers counting money.
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Depends on your skin type, weather conditions, etc. Try a variety of moisturizers; obtain sample sizes if you can. Find one that works best for you and use it regularly. (This time of year, winter here, can be particularly tough for many of us.) 

Sortwik and the like are effective, but only if used judiciously. Overuse tends to gum up the edges of the deck. Hint: A dab of Sortwik behind the ear is a convenient source of "stickiness" while handling cards. It appears that you're simply scratching an itch!

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One thing to try is Chamberlain's Golden Touch.  I work at a hospital and between washing and Purell, well dry is an understatement.  The GT lasts a while also.  Frank Garcia originally told me about it, but later found a large number used it.  Vernon, Wagner, even Marlo.   On the cover of Marlo Without Tears, is a golden drop in the corner, supposedly representing Golden Touch, but Jon R could give the final word on that.
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I don't have dry hands, but on MC, the Chamberlain's is what they recommend for dry hands (lots of people complaining about SuckerPunch).

I picked some up for my wife, who has extremely dry skin.

They've changed the name, this is the link of what I picked up on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005VJITEE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


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Another vote for Chamberlain's Golden Touch Oil. You can find it online. Amazon has a spray bottle but it's very expensive - $15 plus $4 shipping.

Another great one is O'Keeffe's Working Hands. They say, "Guaranteed RELIEF for Dry Hands..."

I've been using it lately instead of Golden Touch. It works very well.

Besides creating some adhesion, the substance must not gum up your deck. Only experimentation will tell. Golden Touch and Working Hands both seem to get the job done and not create a sticky deck. 

Just did a quick google search on these products. Both seem fairly expensive as in the $14 range. Working Hands only requires a tiny amount to get the job done. So the "per application" cost is pretty low.

Anyway, these products work.

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I thought Working Hands left a little bit on the deck after a fair amount of use.  Same with Corn Huskers which Fr Cyp really liked.
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Just used some Working Hands. It does seem that it leaves a bit on the deck. Some shuffling helped smooth it out. But I'm returning to Golden Touch. It wasn't Marlo's choice for no reason!

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I have been researching this for my own edification and recently found this to work very well. Also more convenient to carry around in the pocket than others mentioned here.

It is made by the same company as "Sortkwik" but a difference formula. Last longer and no residue that I have noted after using it for several weeks.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000S9M9ZM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Dave, Chamberlain is still making the Original Golden Touch formula.  Not sure the difference in the Original and After Bath. 
https://www.goodnutrient.com  Search Chamberlain lotion the link doesn't work for some reason.   Decent price and a good way to carry it.
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@Tom, thanks. I was going by info posted on MC, so who knows what nonsense is being spouted over there.


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This is the best deal I could find on Golden Touch lotion:

https://www.goodnutrient.com/77016-pk-chamberlain-golden-touch-lotion-new-scent-16-fl-oz-pour-pack-of-3.html

$34 for three 16 oz bottles of "Original" with $6 shipping. This is 48 oz for $40 or $1.20/oz

On Amazon the 8 oz bottles are going for $14.95 plus $4 shipping. That's $19 for 8 oz or $2.37/oz.

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Some time ago, several of us got together and bought a dozen directly.

I can't seem to find the info right now, though.....

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I have super dry skin and living in Colorado is mainly to blame. I am going to try the gold touch. This seems like a good deal and the travel size is nice so I can throw one in the car. https://www.goodnutrient.com/77012-pk-chamberlain-golden-touch-lotion-2-fl-oz-travel-size.html
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One thing to try is Chamberlain's Golden Touch.  I work at a hospital and between washing and Purell, well dry is an understatement.  The GT lasts a while also.  Frank Garcia originally told me about it, but later found a large number used it.  Vernon, Wagner, even Marlo.   On the cover of Marlo Without Tears, is a golden drop in the corner, supposedly representing Golden Touch, but Jon R could give the final word on that.


Thanks all. 

Marvellous help. 

I'll look for a glycerin based oil moisturiser available locally and try a few out. If no luck will order some Chamberlains. Thanks guys. Good to hear it's not an uncommon problem between us cardmonkeys.

Hiding a small amount behind the ear rings a bell.

Mike, does one application last a gig or practice session. How often would you reapply? Clearly if it's was good enough for Marlo.... especially since Santa might bringing me RCT.

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Hi Gareth,

I have to reapply every so often. I don't think it would last a 2.5 hr gig. I haven't really timed it out. Maybe I'll get "scientific" and do some research on this.

One problem is that each person may have different experiences with regard to longevity. 

BTW I found a 2.5 oz spray bottle of Chamberlain's GT Lotion online. It was only a few dollars. It might be good to get one of those and then refill from the 16oz bottle.

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The only one I have used is a Neutrogena (I'm sure ive spelt that wrong but its a very popular health and beauty company) swedish hand cream formula (it has a blue cap).
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I've tried pretty much everything, but Golden Touch remains my product of choice. After watching Looey Simonoff apply it I realized that a little goes a little way, and a good strong application of the stuff goes a long way. Several sprays and then rub your hands together. Voila! Problem solved. 
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With Working Hands I usually tap my fingers into the container to get a small amount on the fingers in my right hand. I close the container then rub the tips of fingers both hands together. I wait a few minutes then I'll ready to perform.
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Gary Ouellette has a formula in Close Up Illusions - equal parts Rosewater, Glycerin and Rubbing Alcohol. Works well.
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Was it Mike Skinner that had a cream he put out called Edge Card?
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This is the best deal I could find on Golden Touch lotion:

https://www.goodnutrient.com/77016-pk-chamberlain-golden-touch-lotion-new-scent-16-fl-oz-pour-pack-of-3.html

$34 for three 16 oz bottles of "Original" with $6 shipping. This is 48 oz for $40 or $1.20/oz

On Amazon the 8 oz bottles are going for $14.95 plus $4 shipping. That's $19 for 8 oz or $2.37/oz.

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Ordered this, came today and feels great. Thanks for recommending.
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I received an order of Golden Touch yesterday. I tried it out and my fingertips felt smooth and greasy.
I can't see how this is supposed to help you handle cards.

I think I'll stick to O'Keefe's for now.
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I use "Suave" body lotion. Can be found at Walmart. Works good for me.
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My order of Golden Touch came today and so far I love it. I have extremely dry skin and in Colorado the weather is more often than not dry as hell. Usual lotions leave a very greasy feeling to me. This is working out awesome so far. I think I will have to pick up the travel packs for the car/if going out. 

I picked up the spray lotion by the way. Not sure which one is suppose to work better. Maybe I should try the actual lotion as well? 

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Personally, I use a couple of cheap alternatives that I find work great. Either Glycerin and Rose Water.... A bottle costs about £2. Or, coconut oil. We have it in the house for cooking, but it works well on dry hands. Let it soak in for a bit, obviously....
Also check out Harry Robson's Easy Grip.
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I tried Corn Husker's Lotion as that's what Fr. Cyp recommended, but I found the glycerin made the cards dirty a little quicker. 
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Hello Gareth! As I've mentioned on a different thread, I have found just a very small amount of "Working Hands" gives me the best results when I ocaisionally need to use it. I've also tried Golden Touch, sprayed onto a napking and just dabbing my first two fingers of each hand on the napkin briefly, but that stuff feels a little to strong for me. I guess these lotions potentially build up over time on the cards, but by then the cards are worn out anyway. Some great info posted regarding this topic -- thanks -- johnny
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Just thought I'd update you.  Since I read this thread I've been tinkering with different solutions to see what works best for me.
As I mentioned previously, I've found that Boots' Glycerin and Rosewater (Boots is a British drugstore) is near perfect.  However, I've added a little extra 99% pure isopropyl rubbing alcohol to the mix and that seems to help remove some of the stickiness whilst keeping the tackiness I need; if that makes sense.
This is a link to it, so you can check out the ingredients:
http://www.boots.com/boots-traditional-glycerin-and-rosewater-200ml-10130117
The bottle actually says there are is also Rosa damascena oil (basically rose oil) in there too.

I also tried using pure glycerine from my baking cupboard (don't ask) and even that was pretty good, though a bit sticky.  So, I 'watered it down' with the isopropyl and a drop of lemon essential oil (again, don't ask why I have that) and it worked a treat.  The pure glycerine is only about 50p, so it's got to be worth a shot.  Again, here is a link to the product I used:
http://oetker.co.uk/uk-en/our-products/home-baking/baking-ingredients/glycerine/glycerine.html

Anyway, I now have both solutions in their own little spray bottles and I'm good to go.

I'm now heading out to go and find my masculinity which I think I left somewhere between the home baking and aromatherapy aisles!
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Gary Ouellet's solution from his book is about the best I've come across and feels almost the same as the Golden Touch Spray above. I'd say Gary's solution loses it's tackiness a bit quicker, but also doesn't gunk the cards if you handle them right after applying. The Golden Touch spray does carry over to the deck if you handle them right away, but lasts a bit longer.
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I have found that once the Golden Touch dries a bit, it doesn't gunk up the cards. They continue to fan and spread cleanly. I won't use anything that gunks up the cards.

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I did find that the Golden Touch spray was gunking up my deck a bit too much and was a bit too tacky for me. I know dilute it with about 2/8 water to Golden Touch (spray). I find that I might have to apply two sprays compared to one, but at least it isn't overly tacky. 
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I work in a hospital and between Purell about a couple dozen times a day along with the same amount of washings, dry is an understatement.  Add the cold, dry New England air and I just about need Superglue. Since that's not too practical, the Golden Touch works great at full on tack. Like Mike said a couple of moments to dry and no damage to the cards.
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I have been researching this for my own edification and recently found this to work very well. Also more convenient to carry around in the pocket than others mentioned here.

It is made by the same company as "Sortkwik" but a difference formula. Last longer and no residue that I have noted after using it for several weeks.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000S9M9ZM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Tommy


As stated previously, I have found this stuff to be portable, fast-acting and does not leave a residue on cards. Usually last about an hour but its ease of application makes it easy to re-apply and does not leak in my case like some of the liquid tried earlier.

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You can mix your own.

Equal parts:
Glycerin
70 % alcohol
Water

You may change the proportions for your particular hands.
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I find Golden Touch works well. Also use Magician's Choice (available from Penguin) but it is glycerin based so you have to use it sparingly (but wow - great control!).
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I tried Corn Husker's Lotion as that's what Fr. Cyp recommended, but I found the glycerin made the cards dirty a little quicker. 


I'm a big fan of Corn Huskers. I bought a bottle over 2 years ago when I was visiting my family in America and I haven't used even half of the bottle.

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Perhaps you used too much? Personally, I use a drop approximately the size of half a US dime and it does fantastic for me.

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