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Just mentioned Father Cyprian in another thread. Does anyone know a great deal more about him? I came across the following quote and thought it was cool... I'd like to know more about him:

"Magic does not exist in the mechanics of an effect. It exists somewhere between you and the mind of the spectator. We handle the mechanics and present them to the mind and emotions of the spectator. He reacts and the illusion is born. That is magic" - Father Cyprian
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This fleshes out his background a bit.  There have been articles on him.  Genii Magazine probably has some good ones.

https://geniimagazine.com/wiki/index.php?title=Father_Cyprian

And this...

https://perfectmagic.wordpress.com/2011/02/23/father-cyprian/
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I got to meet him at a lecture many many moons ago. Nice guy with some fun presentations.  I think your best best on the forum would be Mike Powers. I believe he knew Cyp pretty well.
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Cyp was a very creative and underrated magician. He put out a few publications. One was titled "The Door To Door Card Magician" or something like that. Frank Garcia wrote a small book of his material (The Elegant Card Magic of Father Cyprian). I got to session with him a couple of times long ago. It was probably the early 1980's. Cyp would occasionally be on retreat at a retreat house in South Bend where I was living at the time. He'd call and I'd go over to the retreat house and hang out with him. Great guy. 

I think it's L&L that sells a series of instructional videos featuring Fr. Cyprian. 

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I have never met him but I own the Garcia book (there is also a wild card routine by him in Super Subtle Card Miracles) and Diabolical Control...which is really nice and versatile way to control cards, reminds me of a lecture here on TMF, I think it was Howard Hamburg but not sure...I like his routines and handlings very much (I did a secret card turnover by him on one of the pasts Saturday Night Sessions...). He really seems to have been a nice an friendly guy!

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A great and creative guy. Taught me how to make great hamburgers.
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Oh! What was his secret?

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Add ranch dressing to the raw hamburger meat.
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I met Father Cyp 20 years ago at a Christmas party.  We drank, ate his liver pate and talked about magic for about three hours, never once taking out a deck of cards.  He was a remarkable man and knew just about everyone.  His work remains current and his thinking is emblematic of folks like Frank Garcia, Vernon and Dr. Daley.
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Father Cyprian was also a collector, with a specialty of magic in the movies.  He once hosted a meeting of the New England Magic Collectors Association at his monastery, where we looked at items from his collection displayed in his rather limited quarters, and in a function room he then showed some rare film clips he had collected.  I'd guess this was in the 80's before Youtube and other outlets make this material easier to see.  I also saw him give a lecture at a convention dealing with magic in the movies.  He was extremely knowledgeable on the subject.

Earlier I had seen a lecture he gave on card magic which was excellent.  The times I briefly chatted with him he was gracious, friendly and charming.  Somewhere I still have a button that says "CYP for POPE" that I picked up, I think, at an S.A.M. convention.  The perfectmagic article that RayJ linked above says there were only 12 of them made and given out in Tampa at a convention, but I've never been to Tampa.  I'd guess I got it later on and it may be a later iteration of that same idea.  

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Father Cyprian was also a collector, with a specialty of magic in the movies.  He once hosted a meeting of the New England Magic Collectors Association at his monastery, where we looked at items from his collection displayed in his rather limited quarters, and in a function room he then showed some rare film clips he had collected.  I'd guess this was in the 80's before Youtube and other outlets make this material easier to see.  I also saw him give a lecture at a convention dealing with magic in the movies.  He was extremely knowledgeable on the subject.

Earlier I had seen a lecture he gave on card magic which was excellent.  The times I briefly chatted with him he was gracious, friendly and charming.  Somewhere I still have a button that says "CYP for POPE" that I picked up, I think, at an S.A.M. convention.  The perfectmagic article that RayJ linked above says there were only 12 of them made and given out in Tampa at a convention, but I've never been to Tampa.  I'd guess I got it later on and it may be a later iteration of that same idea.  



Very cool memories. Thanks for sharing!
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Indeed, magic no more exists in the “tricks” than a song exists in the chords. Technique is the envelope in which the art is delivered. I think there was some idea like this in neo-orthodox theology but that’s above my pay grade.
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I used to work for a company that printed Catholic church bulletins. I worked my way up from the paste-up room to being one of the first trainers to go out and teach the church ladies how to do their bulletins on a computer. 

I had just started the computer trainer job and went out with the other girl Lori who also trained. We were at a church either in Connecticut or New York when over the rectory intercom I hear something like "Father Cyp you have a call on line 3." 

My ears perk up and I ask the church lady if this Father Cyp is actually Father Cyprian and if he does magic. She said that he is one and the same. 
I told her I perform magic as well and had seen him lecture in NJ a few years previous. 
Later after lunch he came down to say hello and while Lori continued training, he took me up to his rooms and showed me his magic collection. 
He had a few autographed Houdini pieces. I remember thinking that if he sold everything he had, he'd be a millionaire. 
As we moved from room to room he said that priests usually only get one room, but they gave him a few so that he could store his magic collection. 
He was a nice guy and it was cool running into him like that. 


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Yes, I think you're right.  He did have several rooms.  Our group visit made it a little hard to look at his collection in detail, but I remember one item - a Disney poster (maybe from Fantasia?) and he referred to it something like "my retirement fund."  Great memories EVILDAN.  Thanks so much.
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