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Just wondering what other people like for routines.  I'm somewhat of a Roth guy, lots of work on the
Okito.  Plus you have the slot, and Boston versions also.
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About 2 years ago I "developed" a crush on Another Coin Box... You can do things with it that are very difficult to do with an Okito box...
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Mike Powers' Boston Box routine is my favorite, cant think of the title. 
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Cool!

It's called "Boston Massacre" but I may be changing it since that title evokes images of the Boston Marathon incident.

Any thoughts on the need for a title change? It seems like a good idea at this point.

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For anyone interested in coin box magic, I highly recommend "Coin Box Concepts". It's a 2 volume download with just about 4 hours of material.  This gave me so many ideas, I'll be fiddling with for years.

Here's a very useful review https://youtu.be/alUh14_MJKk

And the guy's website; http://www.thehandsofmagic.com

His name is J. Burke Whittaker and he's hard to find any info at all about, but all I know is he came up with a ton of good, usable material for the okito box.

And Mike I've got an idea for the title:  "The Midnight Run" in reference to Paul Revere. And it's still connected to Boston, so that still works..

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I've always had fun with Bob Farmer's "Mojo Boogie Boxes" routine.

Mike, I agree that changing the title is a good idea.  I don't know the routine (sorry to admit that!) but if you want to keep some sort of regional connection, how about "Cape Cod Coins"?
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Or Boston Bean Pot...  Mike's is a great routine, worth looking into. 
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I agree with Rick's post above recommending J. Burk Whittaker's 2 vol. DVD set, Coin Box Concepts.

Also, a very strong recommendation for the book, "Walk Around the Box" by Joe Cole. It is an outstanding resource for coin box work done mostly in the hands. Makes it perfect for stand-up. BTW, the DVD set above is also mostly stand-up.

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J. Burk Whittaker found out a Chinese company was selling unauthorized copies of his videos and today he announced on FB that he will be giving away the Coin Box Concepts set as a way to try to take that company's illegal sales of his product. 

Here's what he wrote: 
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A company in China is now selling my Coin Box Concepts without my permission so I am going to give any one a copy who would like one. I have decided that I will make it useless to them by giving it away to anyone interested.

Facebook has stopped me from sending the links to people via messenger myself. So I will still be able to send you the free download but I need everyone to send me the request first. It is still the same thing its absolutely free. Just hit the like button on the post so I can reach as many people as possible to give away copies and drop me a message that you're interested.

I assure this is no BS I want every magician to have a copy absolutely free. As this is my art and I feel this is what I want to do with it. You can if you wish; tag magician friends, copy and paste this post, or keep it to yourself.

I hope that I can get every magician who reads this to help me out and pass the message. This set still sells quite well but I think it is time to let it go so everyone has the chance to use the material on it if they wish.
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You can find this post on the Coin Magicians group. 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/734062103343471/

He is asking to pass the message to as many people as possible. If you download it, maybe you could send a donation or buy some of his other products as a way to thank him for this... just an idea... 


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I do a hybrid routine that I put together. I do coins into the box and then out of the box. I like the Dennemark Drop move devised by Howard Dennemark. He wrote it up in a booklet in the early 80s I believe.
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J. Burk Whittaker found out a Chinese company was selling unauthorized copies of his videos and today he announced on FB that he will be giving away the Coin Box Concepts set as a way to try to take that company's illegal sales of his product. 

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He is asking to pass the message to as many people as possible. If you download it, maybe you could send a donation or buy some of his other products as a way to thank him for this... just an idea... 



Boy that totally sucks... I had already supported him by buying that from him a while back... hate to hear how that went for him.


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One of my favorites is My Coin Collection (CSB & Okito box) by Karl Norman.  He showed it at a lecture in 2001 in Kalamazoo, MI.  I loved the kicker ending he added where he flips the box over, and it's actually a solid slug of aluminum!  Later that year, I had asked him where I could purchase a solid slug like that.  About a week later, he sent me one in the mail, no charge.

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One of my favorites is My Coin Collection (CSB & Okito box) by Karl Norman.  He showed it at a lecture in 2001 in Kalamazoo, MI.  I loved the kicker ending he added where he flips the box over, and it's actually a solid slug of aluminum!  Later that year, I had asked him where I could purchase a solid slug like that.  About a week later, he sent me one in the mail, no charge.

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The solid box ending is interesting.  The other one is the undersized box where the coins will not fit.  You hand it to the spectator and ask them to place the coins into it and of course they cannot.

Personally, I've never used either of them.  I have mixed emotions as to whether they really add anything to the performance for the typical layperson.

As I'm sure you're aware, there is also a solid cup ending to cups and balls or a chop cup routine.  I've never used that either.

The one that I think made sense was Paul Harris "Uncanny" found in Las Vegas Close-up" where you do a chop cup type routine with a can of Beenie Weenies and for a climax the can is found to be unopened.  

How has the solid plug ending played for you?
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Shawn Farquhar ends his Cups and Balls routine with three solid cups.  He seems to get good audience reactions.
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Shawn Farquhar ends his Cups and Balls routine with three solid cups.  He seems to get good audience reactions.


Another ending that I've never tried but have contemplated is switching out the cups for a different, contrasting color.  In other words, begin the routine and refer to the silver cups and then at the end they are all copper.  If you stop and think about it, if you place cups mouth towards the spectator they won't focus on the outside of the cup.  They would be more inclined to look at the interior.  This opens up the possibility to change a cup and have it sit awhile before revealing the change.

Of course you could also exchange the cup as you are doing the large load balls.  The cups could be "pre-loaded" and on your lap ready to go.  

Now the situation becomes how to motivate it.  Why would they change?

There is the old, tired saying that the cups are actually made of gold, but you had them chrome plated to protect the gold.  So maybe they turn from silver to gold, having lost their protective coat.


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One of my favourite surprise endings - I think this is the work of Eric DeCamps - is ending the main routine with all three cups stacked.  Then you lift the stack to reveal a bottle that is the same height as the entire stack of cups.  It's a visual shock.
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One of my favourite surprise endings - I think this is the work of Eric DeCamps - is ending the main routine with all three cups stacked.  Then you lift the stack to reveal a bottle that is the same height as the entire stack of cups.  It's a visual shock.


An ending like that could drive you to drink! Seriously, that is a cool surprise.
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The solid box ending is interesting...  

How has the solid plug ending played for you?


I remember when Karl performed it, people were amazed, especially after several phases of the CSB going back to the box.  I had practiced it for a little while and only performed it a few times for people.  I loved it, and it went over quite well.  However, I have not made time to further enhance my skills with it.  I've been meanimg to, just haven't made time.

I'll have to dig it back out soon.

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I misspelled Howard's name, it is Denemark. This is the book, pamphlet really. Worth finding if you are an avid Okito aficionado.

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Romancing the Coin Box by Robert Bengel.
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Here is a routine I’ve enjoyed doing for many years now. Credits and acknowledgments in the description. hope you’re all well and safe.

 
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Excellent routine Robert. The box allows one coin to REALLY vanish. Great thinking all around.

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I hadn't realized until now that this video was private. I fixed that, so you should be able to check it out. The quality is pretty low. It was made a while back and then compressed a lot for small file size. That's no longer an issue. I'll see if I can find the original and redo it.

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Well done to you both.
My favorite Okito Box routine depends on the point of view. Meaning whether I'm doing it or watching it.
I am by no means a finger flinger. So I do a basic coins through the hand or a card case or transposition.
Watching I have no particular favorite but I like David Roth's smooth work with coins. Now ad Robert and Mike.
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One of my favorites is My Coin Collection (CSB & Okito box) by Karl Norman.  He showed it at a lecture in 2001 in Kalamazoo, MI.  I loved the kicker ending he added where he flips the box over, and it's actually a solid slug of aluminum!  Later that year, I had asked him where I could purchase a solid slug like that.  About a week later, he sent me one in the mail, no charge.

Tom

I just ran across some Karl Norman material a couple of days ago and was thinking about him. He was a real sweetheart.

Another interesting routine in the same vein is Milt Kort's O-Korto Box. I don't have a video link - sorry.
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I hadn't realized until now that this video was private. I fixed that, so you should be able to check it out. The quality is pretty low. It was made a while back and then compressed a lot for small file size. That's no longer an issue. I'll see if I can find the original and redo it.

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Mike,

Do you have the bare-hands version (I believe it was the Boston Box, coins, and no cards, just your hands) with the finale of the Boston Massacre?  I remember helping with the brainstorming with you and Ron and a couple of other people on one of the final moves for that many years ago.  I practice that final move now and then, but I can't recall the full sequence before that.

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Thanks MIke and Robert for posting those great routines.

I'll add Rick Holcombe's recently released "Outside the Box" to the list as well:  https://www.rickholcombemagic.com/
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Hi Thomas,

The BM manuscript details the barehanded version. I haven't made a video of that version yet. Maybe I'll put that on my to-do list! It's pretty cool.

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The BM manuscript details the barehanded version. I haven't made a video of that version yet. Maybe I'll put that on my to-do list! It's pretty cool.

Mike


Mike,

You are correct!  I just re-read the manuscript.  I definitely have not put enough time into practicing the whole sequence.  I did back in 2002 when I first got it from you.  Watching you perform the barehanded version is always fun.

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I have tried so many of them over the years. Eventually, while practicing some and learning others (and reading about yet more as I dug my way through volumes of Harry's Apocalypse)I tossed in the Okito towel. I suddenly lost interest. It was a shame, not just because of all the hours I put in learning these moves and routines, but because I always liked what the little box just looked like. Kind of mysterious, yet kind of rooted in reality. An ideal magic prop. 

Then, on a whim, I purchased Bob Farmer's Mojo Boogie Boxes (find it at lybrary.com). In Bob I trust. I have always loved Bob's twisted sensibility in structure and plot and his material is so well thought through and researched. I fell in love with O-Box routines again! (Well, Bob's routine anyway). I actually went back to routines I studied and learned in the past and reinvigorated them. 

Right now, I perform my version of Kostya Kimlat's Okito Box Routine (Vanishing Inc.), then add in two more coin boxes and perform Bob's routine.  They pair perfectly!

So, my strong recommendations go to both Bob's and Kostya's Okito Box routines.
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I hadn't realized until now that this video was private. I fixed that, so you should be able to check it out. The quality is pretty low. It was made a while back and then compressed a lot for small file size. That's no longer an issue. I'll see if I can find the original and redo it.

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Very Nice Mike! I want to say I saw this on your website many years ago. Still stands the test of time.
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