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JenniferG

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.. before I throw them away.  Working on the Mercury Fold sleight now 😉.

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I believe Tommy Wonder said the Mercury Fold will be perfected after practicing with 1,000 decks of cards.  (Correct me if I'm wrong).
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Yes, that is how I learned it. Literally hundreds of cards folded into a waste basket.

Another thing that I use then for is an incredible effect by Woody Aragon called, “Love Ritual”. He teaches it in his Penguin lecture.

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Funny you mention this. I was browsing through the Books of Wonder again the other day and reading about this topic.

He recommends going through 50 decks to learn the fold. All in one sitting no less. His thinking is if you do it all at once you will be doing it perfectly by the end. If you only go through a few decks here and there you will only half learn it.

Also, his Two-second card fold creases the card into 8ths and not 4ths.

I won't pretend that I have tried his method but I am tempted to keep piling up the used decks and going for it once I get enough.
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I used to write my todo's on them at work. Spades and Hearts for major tasks, Clubs for minor, and Diamonds for budget issues. With a Sharpie. They thought I was strange (good take), but actually useful. Could sort and organize tasks easily. Eventually stopped as I got tired of explaining.
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Hated the two deck assignments.
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Fortunately, I buy 12 packs of bicycle cards from Amazon for like $15. 
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You won't find them for that price on Amazon right now. They were up to about $25 a brick when I checked earlier. I'm going to wait it out until they either go down or visit the nearest wholesale club if I get desperate.
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Jack, I kept checking every couple days because I noticed the same thing and then one day they had a bunch up for $15 which sold out after a couple days.  I bought 2 bricks of them when they were $15 about a month ago.  They sell bricks of bicycle cards at Sam's Club and the like?  I didn't know that.  How much do they usually go for there?
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Lord.. lol..

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I guess the fold doesn't have to be perfect for most tricks right? Like with it folded up under wrist watch, or a folded card given to spectator with paperclip on it before the trick begins (then swap it with palmed signed one in hand).
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I'm told they usually go for about $15.99 at Sam's.

I checked BJ's site yesterday and they were $13.99 a brick but are now $16.99. I was going to drive to the local one soon because they offered me a free 3 month membership. I might have to go tomorrow if the price keeps going up haha.
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Thanks for that tip Jack.  I didn't realize.  This is going to save me a lot of money if they continue to be $25 on amazon. 
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Anyone ever do a trick using these advertising cards which come with Bicycle decks?  I've been saving them for some reason LOL.. I guess I thought I'd make it into some trick to make a magician laugh.  Wondering if I should just use them to practice The Mercury Fold with a "new deck". 

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I used to write my todo's on them at work. Spades and Hearts for major tasks, Clubs for minor, and Diamonds for budget issues. With a Sharpie. They thought I was strange (good take), but actually useful. Could sort and organize tasks easily. Eventually stopped as I got tired of explaining.


I love this idea! I'm definitely going to start using it.

Also, Costco typically sells bricks for $15.99
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Another endorsement for Costco here ... Usually around $15 - $16 for a brick (6 red-backed & 6 blue-backed), and I've never had any problems with the quality.
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I could never master the Mercury Fold so I came up with an alternative that has better angles.

The deck is in your palm-up left hand. The card to be folded is on top of the deck with a break. The break should be held with the left little finger on the right side and a bit of flesh from the base of the left thumb on the left side so that the entire back of the card is lifted slightly off the deck.

The palm-down right hand grips the outer end of the deck, thumb on top, fingers below and levers the deck face up by moving it up and inwards. 

The broken card is held in place by the base of the left thumb and the left little finger and as the deck is turned inwards the card is bent in half and ends up folded in half under the face-up deck. The left fingers close in folding it in half again.




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Excelent idea, Bob!

Fortunately for me I haven't had problems to carry out the "Mercury fold," but it is always a good thing to have other methods to confuse more the lay-people.
Thanks a lot for sharing that great move!

By the way,
Does anybody know why is it called "Mercury"? Maybe because of the God Mercury?



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Excelent idea, Bob!

Fortunately for me I haven't had problems to carry out the "Mercury fold," but it is always a good thing to have other methods to confuse more the lay-people.
Thanks a lot for sharing that great move!

By the way,
Does anybody know why is it called "Mercury"? Maybe because of the God Mercury?




Paco, mercury, the element, is also known as quick silver. It carries a connotation of speed with it. So the name mercury was chosed because it is comparatively rapid.
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Thanks, Ray!

I had no idea about that connotation.

I'm glad to finally know it. [smile]

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I have an extensive library of books, so many of my playing cards enjoy a second life as bookmarks.
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Does the mercury fold even need to be perfect? I mean if it is roughly square isn't that good enough?
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Personally, I don't like a perfect fold. It looks well, too perfect and suspicious to me. Others don't see an issue.

I know I have heard or read Jay Sankey talk about the topic but I can't quite remember where. If I had to guess it would have probably been on his paperclipped DVD or maybe his three volume book set.

If a perfect fold is your thing there are a few different devices out there that can make life easier. The Bullet and Perfect Score come to mind. I'm sure there are others as well but they aren't my cup of tea.
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Does the mercury fold even need to be perfect? I mean if it is roughly square isn't that good enough?


Yes, in most instances close is enough.  An exception might be if you wanted to fold it down to a very small, tight package in order to place it into a small container.  

There are methods for folding in quarters, sixths and eighths, each of which works for certain applications.
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My local Costco doesn't have playing cards right now and I can't seem to find them online (only a 3-pack, and 36 decks sounds a bit like overkill for me, lol).

Might need to sign up for a BJ's membership too at this rate...
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I am practicing this Mercury Fold for that one trick where you hand the spectator a folded card with paper clip on it before the routine.  They select a card and sign it and do ambitious card or whatever routine with it.  Then ask for the paperclipped card back and take the paper clip off and it's the card they signed during the trick.  Love love it 😋. Not sure what htat trick is called.  I guess it doesn't matter how perfect of a fold it is, can be a bit rough and still pull off that trick.
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I am practicing this Mercury Fold for that one trick where you hand the spectator a folded card with paper clip on it before the routine.  They select a card and sign it and do ambitious card or whatever routine with it.  Then ask for the paperclipped card back and take the paper clip off and it's the card they signed during the trick.  Love love it 😋. Not sure what htat trick is called.  I guess it doesn't matter how perfect of a fold it is, can be a bit rough and still pull off that trick.


That's Jay Sankey's Paperclipped. He has at least a dozen different variations and probably many more.
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I actually have Jay Sankey's Paperclipped DVD for sale.  PM me if anyone is interested ...
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This new tutorial video on Mercury Fold by Alex Pandrea looks really good.  He really conceals it well and doesn't do it really fast but casually.  Covers the sleight well as if he is just squaring the deck.  Thanks Buffalo McKinley for the link 😉

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That's a published Darwin Ortiz idea. At the Card Table p. 134. I don't think it's quite right to just drop that info on a public forum. At least not in the open.


Sorry, did not know that. I’m going to delete my post. Please do the same since you copied and pasted.
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I just looked at the publication date of Darwin Ortiz at the Card Table and see that it was 1988. This idea was shown to me in the late 70s by a local magic shop owner in NJ.

Does the book say it’s his idea or that it was someone else’s? Just wondering.
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I just looked at the publication date of Darwin Ortiz at the Card Table and see that it was 1988. This idea was shown to me in the late 70s by a local magic shop owner in NJ.

Does the book say it’s his idea or that it was someone else’s? Just wondering.


This is a partial quote in the comments section for The Card Warp Deck:

"I started performing "Card Warp" soon after it was marketed by Roy Walton in 1973 and devised "The Card Warp Deck" shortly thereafter."

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Has anyone done something like this starting with a fold down the middle long ways/vertically? That’s a more natural motion to basically just scrunch your fingers up like you’re making a fist. But finding a fulcrum for the second fold becomes a challenge. If you need one. You can still do cool stuff with a card folded once, like a rising card. Well I can’t but I can see how someone could.
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Learned the Paperclipped sleights today and got the fold down pretty well after doing all these cards today

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