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I'm excited! 

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Really good book!!!


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One of my faves.

I got Collected Almanac in  the mail today
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Nice. This can keep one busy for years and even decades. 
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Enjoy an absolute classic. Older books can seem very dry, but keep on keeping on.

After all these years, it's still fun to get a book in the mail. I've been wanting Impromptu Magic by Dominic Twose for some time and resisted paying the postage from International Magic. I finally gave in and ordered it. It arrived Saturday. At this point, very pleased.

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Expert & Collected are both top-notch books.
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What do you think of Card College vs. Expert Card Technique and Royal Road?  At least card college has the counts in it.  Perhaps easier to read and follow Card College?  Pretty much almost made my mind up to purchase Card College volumes 1 and 2.  They were the first two put out and contain all the sleights I really need to learn.  CC 3-5 are pretty advanced stuff I don't know if I'd ever use.
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If I want to take one card book with me on a trip, I usually take Expert Card Technique. I has great section on Faros (with tables that are very useful for moving a card into position), palms, folds, shifts.... It has it all. Just a great book and it is 80 years old.
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What do you think of Card College vs. Expert Card Technique and Royal Road?  At least card college has the counts in it.  Perhaps easier to read and follow Card College?  Pretty much almost made my mind up to purchase Card College volumes 1 and 2.  They were the first two put out and contain all the sleights I really need to learn.  CC 3-5 are pretty advanced stuff I don't know if I'd ever use.


Card college is great for learning magic in modern times. I still think it would be worth learning out of ECT and RRTCM for the sake of foundation. You could also use CC as supplemental material for ECT and RRTCM. Some of the slights Giobbi teaches are easier to understand that those older books. Completely up to you.

If it were me, I would get through ECT and RRTCM first. Then buy the Card College books.

If you want to get a taste of Giobbi's work, I would strongly recommend the Card College Light series. It has great self-working tricks. Great help for developing good presentation.

I'd also suggest Strong Magic and Designing Miracles by Darwin Ortiz. No tricks but those books teach you how to actually make magic entertaining.

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Josh

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Got another one in the mail today!  E-mail that is!  I bought Mike Powers' Tesseract in hardback and got a good bundle deal including this PDF.  I printed it out on my two sided laser black and white laser printer.  Printed cover on color laser printer.  Then spiral bound it at home with a spiral binder I picked up for $40 from flea market.  I put a clear plastic cover on the top and leatherette on back.

Just read the Foreward by Allan Ackerman, wow I didn't know that Marlo mentored Mike Powers, that's so cool!  Can't wait to get into this one.  Especially the "amBIGuous card" routine. 

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Good job Jennifer! It looks great.

I think spiral binding makes using an instruction manual much easier than any other style of binding. It lays flat!

Hope you find many items of interest!

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Thanks I am sure I will Mike!  This book is great!  I really like the spiral binding versus comb binding because I can fold it back on itself flat if I need even more table space.  Mike, I am curious are you PHD in Mathematics or Physics?  Just wondering if I should call you Professor Powers 😉 hehe.  Or Dr. Powers -- reminds me of Austin Powers movie hehe.

EDIT: OMG I just read the introduction in this book AFTER I mentioned Austin Powers above!  JINX!  Btw, "Power Plays" is such an awesome creative name for this book! It's on par with Tommy Wonder's "Books of Wonder" with respect to the creativity of title 😉 
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I have a question, every time I edit does it send another email?  How many minutes do I have to edit before it sends a spam of emails?  If it sends immediately, I guess I better proof read things before I post the message.
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EDIT: OMG I just read the introduction in this book AFTER I mentioned Austin Powers above!  JINX!  Btw, "Power Plays" is such an awesome creative name for this book!

I'd say that's a 'play' on words. 😃 
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Tip when buying books from Penguin: if you buy another small item which isn't a book you'll get your books A LOT faster. If it is just books they send it Media Mail which can take like 10 days!  If you include a non-book / non-dvd item then they can't send media mail and instead send FEDEX 😉. I bought a deck of blue maiden back cards for $3.31 so I could make some gaffs for my red marked maiden back cards.. and for tricks liek Chicago opener using marked deck.
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Hi Jennifer,

I don't have a PhD. I have two masters degrees which got me "professor" status at Holy Cross college. My son came along in 1971 and made full time grad school difficult. I received a B.S. in Physics from Notre Dame in 1969. Then a M.S. in Mathematics around 1973 or so. And a M.S. in History and Philosophy of Science a couple of years later. So I guess I'm master master powers rather than doctor powers. And as one of my profs at ND said on day one "Don't call me doctor. I don't know how to perform an appendectomy." He liked "Professor Lorch." I like "Mike."

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    I've got you all beat - I have one half term of high school.
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Just received this, wasn't sure where to post it - so posting it here.  Anyone here, male or female, interested in any deck, impromptu card magic may find it interesting...or even enticing!!

"I received your DVD in the mail two days ago.

 And wow! It packs a wallop!  What an intense amount of material in one package--it is rare that a single DVD these days has this much on it. Nearly 4 hours of material, containing useful information about sleights but in the context of solid, practical, and useful card magic. In an era where they sell effects one at a time, this is a goldmine!

 I clearly have not had the time to work my way through the DVD but I watched the whole thing--I couldn't help it, it was addictive.  I was really worried that the DVD would be above my beginner to intermediate ability but clearly that is not thcase.  I was able run through HaLo Aces (first version) shortly after going through your explanation with cards in hand.  

 I really enjoy reverse engineering effects (I've read through most of Giobbi's card college, although my hands lag well behind my brain in this regard).  What really got me is how I was nearly 100% wrong when I tried to figure out what you were doing.  The sleights on the DVD were more simple and straightforward than what I would have imagined.  In a time where magicians seem to want to use knuckle busting sleight of hand to get their point across, you carefully construct your magic to do the impossible while at the same time taking the simplest, most straightforward path.  I see why you fool magicians. Apart from the effects themselves, I am starting to understand exactly how important it is to carefully construct an effect.  (Lucky for us out here, you've done the heavy lifting for the rest us.)

 The Great Divide at the end was a real bonus and I just had to try it.  It's one of those things that seems just too simple to actually work.  I looked up the Great Divide online, as I had never heard of it.  (Of course, I have not heard of a lot of things) Well to do a serviceable Hofzinser spread cull, I'm already much better at the Great Divide and there is much less going on so it's much easier to cover.

                   Thanks again!  What a great DVD!"


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Got three more in mail yesterday:

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I sure spent a lot on books this month, crazy!! Got a few more coming in over the next few days as well.

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Got Mike's book today.  Gorgeous dust jacket and artwork.  Love the font he chose inside the book and clear pictures.  I covered it immediately in library plastic.

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Gonna get a couple books from Harry soon as I get some more money next month 😋. The Memory Book and Mathematical Wizardry 😉


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Regarding Harry Lorayne's books.  So I have The Magic Book right now as well as Miracle Math.  Getting The Memory Book as well as Mathematical Wizardry very soon. 

If you guys could only have two more Harry Lorayne books after that, which would they be and why?   I don't know how much redudancy there is in his book sbecause there are so many it is confusing.  I guess I want a book that has his unique sleights and tricks in it.  Maybe a book with his very favorite impromptu card tricks and with a bunch of cool sleights.   I already have enough books for the basics.. card college, expert card techinique and a bunch of PDF of my hard drive.. I'm overwhelmed lol!  Are there any good books of his which sort of pull out all of the very best stuff from his previous books aimed at someone who alerady knows the basics?  The only card book I have of his is "The Magic Book".

I guess I am just looking for the gold and well I think the first four books I picked so far were good choices.  


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One I'm very familiar with is Close-Up Card Magic.  Highly recommended!

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Regarding Harry Lorayne's books.  So I have The Magic Book right now as well as Miracle Math.  Getting The Memory Book as well as Mathematical Wizardry very soon. 

If you guys could only have two more Harry Lorayne books after that, which would they be and why?   I don't know how much redudancy there is in his book sbecause there are so many it is confusing.  I guess I want a book that has his unique sleights and tricks in it.  Maybe a book with his very favorite impromptu card tricks and with a bunch of cool sleights.   I already have enough books for the basics.. card college, expert card techinique and a bunch of PDF of my hard drive.. I'm overwhelmed lol!  Are there any good books of his which sort of pull out all of the very best stuff from his previous books aimed at someone who alerady knows the basics?  The only card book I have of his is "The Magic Book".

I guess I am just looking for the gold and well I think the first four books I picked so far were good choices.  



I'd grab classic collection 2 if you could.

It has his two finest books in my opinion, Reputation Makers and Rim Shots. Afterthoughts is also pretty incredible, although somehow doesn't make it into my top 5 HL books, those spots go to Quantum Leaps, Close Up Card Magic and Jaw Droppers.

Honestly I know it's a cheat but I'd say, I'd get classic collection volume 2 and then volume 3. If only 2 books, then Reputation Makers and Rim Shots as I've said above.
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   Chi Han:   Sad.  The newbies (and too many "oldies") just don't know about the good stuff!
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Harry which are your 2 favorite card books of your's excluding The Magic Book?  (I Already have that one)
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         LORAYNE: THE CLASSIC COLLECTION, Vol. 2, JAW DROPPERS TWO, AND FINALLY!.   Which should I "hold" for you?   Running low on all - too old to re-print. 
 
    I believe I'm already holding a couple of books aside for you. For you and a few other people. Gotta' make up your minds folks!!!
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Hi Jennifer,

Just a friendly word of warning … You seem to be accumulating magic books at a rapid rate.  Do yourself a favor and slow down a little.  Read the books you’re already purchased.  Go though each one leisurely and diligently, page by page, trying all the tricks, routines and sleights.  Make a note of the ones that suit you best, and practice those on a daily basis until you can perform them smoothly.  

From the books you already have (and you have some great ones!), pay particular attention to advice from the authors about misdirection, timing, story-line, audience interaction, and above all, entertainment value.

Early on in my own quest for magical resources, I fell into the trap buying everything I could find, and then ending up with a shelf full of books I never read.  So I’m speaking from experience.

Anyway, I’m posting this with the best of intentions.  Hope you will find it helpful.

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Whilst fully able to relate to Arthur's post, I think if you've got the cash, get the stuff now. If you wait, you'll be too late and you'll regret it.

At the same time, of course, as Arthur notes, don't just bundle them on a shelf and become a hoarder.
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      I agree with Arthur for/in most cases, but...   in my personalspecific case, if you follow that advice - I won't have any copies left of the book you may want. Of course, if you don't want them, no problem, his advice is right on. 
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Some advice from a wise master...

" If you have been into magic for more than a year or more, you already know to many tricks. And this knowledge, coupled with this endless desire for more, more & more, surely is one of the great enemies of good magical presentation. "

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This is advice for a lot of people, not just for the OP.

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     Ya' know, it boils down to the cliche...to each his own.  If I'd thought as some above are advising to think I'd never have come up with some of the great (I've been told over the decades) effects/routines, etc.  So, to each his own. You're satisfied with the stuff you've known and used for years? Fine. So you don't need the "lots of good stuff" from my books, with which I'd fool the heck out of you!

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Jennifer, my humble opinion, and it's just that...HUMBLE....acquire whatever you can!  I've built a large library over the last 30 years.  It's super beneficial to be able to reference material when it's mentioned without having to stumble about or not be able to find something out of print.  To this day, I purchase new volumes whenever I possibly can, and I rarely regret a single purchase.  

On the flip side, I can't remember the last time I actually slowed down and read one, cover to cover, and absorbed every page for deep thought.  Hmmmm....sounds like a good COVID exercise to me!  Time to pick a book!  [crazy]

As for Mr Lorayne's material...you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you don't own every single one of his published works in your library!  (Wink to Harry [wink]


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Some advice from a wise master...

" If you have been into magic for more than a year or more, you already know to many tricks. And this knowledge, coupled with this endless desire for more, more & more, surely is one of the great enemies of good magical presentation. "

Eugene Burger
Mastering The Art Of Magic

This is advice for a lot of people, not just for the OP.

Rick-



Well the short answer to Burger is that he's only partly right. 

The even shorter answer is that I disagree entirely.
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I am a magic book hoarder and proud of it! Everything from Harry Lorayne to Harry Blackstone. Sometimes I get the urge to thin the herd and sell off some of my collection, but the Scrooge McDuck always gets the better of me.

A friend of mine (who performs full time as a living) always reminds me that the difference between a professional and an amateur is the amount of books they have. I think he has less than 10 magic related books...I feel sorry for professionals. They have no idea what they are missing out on!


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I don't have many Magic books. Financial necessity has meant that over the years I've sold more than I have now. But I strongly believe that the more books we have makes us stronger. A shelf filled with Magic books, and non-fiction in general, is a great reference tool.

Fiction has its place too, of course. From Shakespeare to Spenser.
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Good thing is magic books seem to hold their value well.  So if I buy for $50 now I might be able to get $35 for it 10 years from now, or more.  I am pretty frugal and as often as possible, like to buy things which don't depreciate.  Just in case I did need some money and had to sell off some.
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My three cents ...

Why would you want to learn yet another four ace assembly if you already know five of them and regularly perform three of them? It's a matter of "texture." I ALWAYS learn form the other versions and other magician's visions. So, even if I never perform these, you get to learn how their magic brain works a bit. And THAT may be something you can use IN ANY TRICK.
And you will draw your own conclusions as to which tricks, performances and ideas you believe a the best fit for you. 
One other thing, you never know when you stumble across a variation of a variation which appeals to you ... you give it a test run and find it absolutely blows away your audience! That really refreshes you and your portfolio. And that will show in your performance. 

I say all this, Jennifer, because I am currently reading through the whole run of APOCALYPSE. It's easy to say 'ah .. another coin matrix, another sandwich trick, another this , another that... but you learn to read between the lines a pick out little bits and pieces that you can adopt. Or, decide that particular version is your new 'best friend.' (Having said that... there still so much original and unique stuff in APOCALYPSE its been a joy to read... And, oh yeah ... that Harry Lorayne guy writes his autobiography throughout the pages. It's a great read!)

So I am a firm believer in reading as much of this stuff as you can (by the way, you picked good ones, with writers who know how to teach and write. Most magicians don't know their adjectives from their participles!) Learn as much as you can. We will all be learning from you too!

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I have never regretted buying a magic book. I always learn a little something from each and I regularly pull one off the shelf to read.

However, I have regularly regretted buying that latest flashy trick that needed two hours of arts and crfts to use...
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Jim, I couldn't agree more!  I can't tell you the number of times I've made a 'Trick' purchase that was hyped all over the place, only to be practically furious once the item arrives.  But books, I've rarely been disappointed.  A few, but rarely.




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Some great and varied thoughts on how much written wisdom to acquire how quickly. As a beginner this question is quite pertinent. I read about all these Great Books and part of me thinks I need to have all of them or I’m not serious about magic. But I’m a minimalist by nature and I want to use what I have. So I have only one real paper book, Erdnase, and a few pdfs of books I really do think everyone should have- three Marlo books, Vernon’s Book of Magic, and I just took Mike Power’s advice and downloaded Card Control.

This could all keep me going literally for years, but then would I just be a Marlo clone? (I know, keep dreaming). So I see the value in learning different styles and approaches but my library will probably grow more slowly than most.

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Speaking of Card Control, I started at the top and spent an hour just trying to figure out what he is saying in The Strip. I thought if I had a video I would get this in five minutes.

And I would forget it in five minutes.

Now that I put in the work to figure it out, I feel a sense of custodianship, like I really know the move. Which isn’t true, I have a lot of work to do to get it clean, but in general I do feel more of a connection to magic I learned by reading. YMMV

So do I go on to A Blind Riffle Shuffle, or spend the rest of the day on Strip? I’m going to do the latter.
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I think too many are taking Burger's statement as dogmatic and absolute. He wasn't intending that you stop learning or even buying books, he obviously wanted to sell his own!

He was simply making a point. He did it with a statement that seems absurd to some. It certainly catches your attention, yes?

Also, keep in mind there are magicians who declare success if they stumble through a performance without giving away the method. It was to these sorts his comment was aimed.

To the others it is a reminder that the quest to find the next big thing might be fulfilled in tricks you already know, you just need to work out the presentation.
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That may be what he meant, I wouldn't presume to know. But the quote, although likely out of context, is clear.

And that's what I responded to.
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