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Would you say it's an addiction? Or, maybe you think it's just a fad? Do you buy stuff you don't need?

That is what I mean by "hooked".

Looking forward to your thoughts and opinions...

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Would you say it's an addiction? Or, maybe you think it's just a fad? Do you buy stuff you don't need?

That is what I mean by "hooked".

Looking forward to your thoughts and opinions...

Rick,


Interesting question(s).  

Magic is something I've been interested in for the last 50 years of my life.  During that time I have had the usual ebbs and flows.

I'm feeling an ebb coming on.  I try to be active here because I sincerely want to help people that are in the magic community.  If they are beginners, to help them grow.  If they are experienced, then maybe to help them think outside of their personal box.

As far as buying stuff I don't need, not really.  One reason is when I was younger I had no money and when I had money I had a wife and 4 kids, a mortgage, etc., etc.

So I pick what I purchase with great care.


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I've been interested in magic since watching my first Mark Wilson TV show. 
Yes I buy stuff I don't need. But what's the use of being a magician if you didn't.
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I've been interested in magic since watching my first Mark Wilson TV show. 


I remember his show as a kid, Mark Wilson's Magic Circus way back in 70's.

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I've been into magic since the early 80's and my interest has never faded... but I tend to say that 1984 was the year when I really became "hooked"... and probably for me, Magic can be an addiction... I think about it often every day... and whenever I have a free moment, I grab a deck of cards and practice an effect, a routine or a move.

And of course I buy things I don't use too often... sometimes I buy a book just to learn an effect out of all the effects in the book, or the author is a good one and I like his magic, so I buy the book. And as for effects, I don't buy as many as I buy books...

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Magic is my passion. 
I think about it constantly. 
I carry notebooks with me to jot down ideas. 
If I don't have a notebook handy, I'll jot it down in my phone. 
I'm constantly revising shows, routines and scripts. 
I'm always reading magic, watching magic, learning magic, practicing magic, rehearsing magic. 
It's just what I love to do. 

And yes, I buy things I don't need - sometimes to see how they work because I have an idea where the prop/effect could be applied somewhere else. 
Other times because I just need to know how it's done. 

There is also a lot of magic that I see and it hits a chord of - "Now, that's magic!" - and I don't want to know how it's done. 

I tend to overthink everything so I like books that go into magic theory and those where the magical artist dissects a routine and explains why they move the way they do, say what they do, use the props they use, etc. 
 

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I remember his show as a kid, Mark Wilson's Magic Circus way back in 70's.

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Same here.  I liked when his son Greg performed because we were probably of similar age, I think I'm a bit older.

I still remember a coins thru the table routine Mark did with Chinese coins and a glass.  It used a shell and had a "hands off" appearance that was very clean.  

Greg still performs.  Here's his website.  I guess you call him Greg, the other magician Gregory.

https://gregwilson.com/the-legacy/
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I learned the four coin matrix by watching Greg Wilson perform it on Mark Wilson's Magic Circus. 
It blew me away. 
And remember, this is before VCRs and YouTube. 
Just going by what I remembered seeing - I took four cards and four half dollars and I worked out a way to do it.
Not sure if it's THE way he did it. 
But it's been the way I've been doing it ever since. 
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I remember one of Mark Wilson's performance of The 20th Century Silks. At my age at the time I thought it was real magic!
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I remember one of Mark Wilson's performance of The 20th Century Silks. At my age at the time I thought it was real magic!
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I felt something similar when I first saw Juan Tamariz doing a card trick on TV.
It was so impresive that I thought it was real magic; I was 7.

Well... me addicted to magic?
Not really.

Addicted to card magic.
Yes.

Quite a few of my original creations or discoveries took place on dreams when I was still a child.

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The component parts of magic are my real interest. The psychology of influence and misdirection, the presentational angles, the storytelling elements, the linguistic patterns, the interaction with volunteers, the creative thinking and problems solving skills, the improvisational aspects etc.

As for me I would say it is an interesting way of thinking about the world. I am not hooked on magic at all, and I do not buy anything that I do not require, I haven't purchased any tricks or magic books for many years now. In fact I cannot even remember the last time I purchased a pack of playing cards.

I enjoy reading on many subject areas, and I find the origins of magic to be most informative. As for my card skills and tricks, well I am content with what I already know - I have no desire for anything new, I like to keep things simple and I'm more interested in improvising in the moment.

My approach to magic is spiritual, it's just another way to paint pictures and create poetry in motion.
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I’ve only been doing it for a year, so I haven’t had time for the enthusiasm to sag. I’m always shuffling or turning cards over, and I’m always juggling ideas, most of which lead nowhere but every so often something works and that’s a rush. It really became obsessive once I started coming up with my own tricks or putting my own spin on something I learned. It’s the same thrill as writing a poem or playing a guitar solo. I even joined a magic forum and I hate social media.

I bought a few custom decks I don’t really need but for the most part this is a way cheaper addiction than my guitars.

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I recall reading somewhere that a magician slept on the floor so as not to disturb a card layout on his bed. To me, that’s obsessive.

I’m passionate about Magic, not obsessive. I wouldn’t carry on performing if the building was on fire.

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I recently read that one time in the middle of sex, Richard Turner's wife heard the shuffle of cards.

Top that obsession.

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As I already said, Magic is an addiction for me and I've been trying to teach my 2 children some magic during this quarantine. About 3 weeks ago I learned that Tannen's Magic Camp was going to be online for the first time in their history and I enrolled them for it. It was free and they can learn some magic and English at the same time (English is not their first language but they go to a bilingual school so I help them a little with things they don't understand). They've been enjoying it and have learned some things and I am teaching them some other things to complement what they see in the sessions. Although it is supposed to be also for beginners, some of the sessions have been a little "advanced" for my children so they require some help and I've been able to provide that help. I don't know if they will be as "passionate" about magic as I am but I will help them if they want to go in that direction in life, as long as they also keep studying and have a career to lean on... 
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Magic on the brain!!

I was first interested at age 6 in 1982, but there were a year or two where I spent less time.  In 1998, I had found The Timid Rabbit in Kalamazoo, MI.  I spent obsessive hours practicing, learning, teaching magic in a campus magic club called Kalamazoo Magic Society (KMS).  I walked around campus with a one dollar coin palmed in at least one hand.  I told the KMS members, if they ever see me on campus, ask me where my coin is.  I'd almost always be practice going from classic to finger palm repeatedly, even while doing stuff like opening doors or writing notes.  I can't top Richard Turner's shuffling, but I have fallen asleep many times with a desk of cards in mechanics grip and even woken up with them still in the same grip.  Other times, they were scattered all over.  The magic workshops at The Timid Rabbit often started at 7pm and didn't finish until the sun came up the next day.  Often at magic conventions, I would get a total of 3 or 4 hours of sleep during a 4 day convention.  A little bit obsessed/addicted.  I'm up to two packs a day.  I would practice dealing, cutting, shuffling, etc with both hands.  I got to the point, I didn't even which way was the proper handling for a right-hand dealing.  Even now when I play card games or a dealing effect, I switch which hand holds the cards and which deals.

I do enjoy learning and thinking about the psychology of magic and misdirection.  I used to study how people would flip over a single card.  Then I would practice flipping a single or a double to make it look the same as their movements (well, going for natural).  I would study how someone touches or handles something.  I would also study how they select things from a pile.  Then if piles are rearranged, how did their next choice occur (same, different, random, etc.).  This is great for understanding aspects of equivoque.  I used to have a video from one of the KMS meetings where we were discussing how "the big motion covers the small motion".  One of them was skeptical, so I said, just watch.  Then I pointed to a spot on the table without even saying "look here", and in my other hand did some magic move.  I watched everyone's eyes look exactly where I pointed.  I said, that's how it's done.

I used to (still occasionally do) buy stuff I don't need, but I have slowed down.  I only have a total of about 60 magic books and a bunch of lecture notes, but it's more than I need for a lifetime of magic.  Most, I still haven't read through, but I used to read them cover to cover and try just about everything and pick out the ones that I liked the most.  I do have a bunch of Linking Rings that I still need to open and read.  Finally even have a couple of items published in them.  I don't have too many original ideas, but I do write stuff in notebooks or in my phone whenever something comes to mind.

I had several magic products on the market that I would make and sell with another magician partner.  It's been more slow recently.  Even after working 10-12 hours at my engineering job, I would come home and hand make whatever orders we had.  Sometimes all night not really sleeping, then go back to my regular job.  Even after making each piece, I would practice with and test every single piece to ensure quality.  That's part of my desire as an Engineer at an R&D place, but also with my name on a magic product, I wanted to ensure a high level of quality and reliability.

I even told my wife that magic is my first love.  She comes in a close second.  LOL  I have taught my kids some magic.  My daughter, 11, has a magic kit that we got for her when she was 7, and my son is asking for one.  I told him I want to buy him a good quality kit.  He's only 7, but I am hoping as he gets older he will want to read through some of the books I have.

Tom


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